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    taconite
    last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 14:15

    Hey guys,

    I want to power a Arduino Nano from the 5V Rail of a Duet 2 Wifi (v1.4) and controll LEDs with it (I don't have heater or fan outputs to spare).

    I will use one remaining fan output to control the state of the LEDs

    Is there enought power to drive the Arduino Nano and approx 30 LEDs of a (300 LED/5m WS2812b LED strip)?

    Best Regards
    Adrian

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      peter247 @taconite
      last edited by peter247 21 Oct 2020, 14:22

      @taconite
      I would say at a guess , NO , the best way is use a buck converter off the main psu.

      Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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        Veti
        last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 14:24

        see this on how to do the wiring

        https://www.blvprojects.com/blv-mgn-cube-3d-printer?pgid=k8hkwn62-f7fe97b7-2106-47ec-9a07-47b5b8c9a191

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          dc42 administrators @taconite
          last edited by dc42 21 Oct 2020, 14:30

          @taconite said in Powering Arduino Nano and LEDs from 5V rail:

          Hey guys,

          I want to power a Arduino Nano from the 5V Rail of a Duet 2 Wifi (v1.4) and controll LEDs with it (I don't have heater or fan outputs to spare).

          I will use one remaining fan output to control the state of the LEDs

          Is there enought power to drive the Arduino Nano and approx 30 LEDs of a (300 LED/5m WS2812b LED strip)?

          Best Regards
          Adrian

          Arduino Nano: yes (although Arduino Pro Micro is a better one to use if it will take inputs directly from the Duet)
          LED strip: 30 LEDs * up to 60mA per LED = up to 1.8A. That's more than we recommend drawing from the Duet's 5V supply; so no.

          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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            taconite
            last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 14:32

            Thank you for your replies!

            Why using a buck converter when I could just bi-pass the buck on the Nano. My concern is more about the current draw from the Duet.

            As my fans are running on 24V I will use a optocoupler to convert it to 5V

            Custom ANET A8
            Custom Delta: D-PATCH (Delta Printer with Automatic Tool CHanging) https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/16082/d-patch?_=1596131234754

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              taconite
              last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 14:33

              Thank you @dc42

              What is the recommended max current draw from the 5V supply?

              Custom ANET A8
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                dc42 administrators @taconite
                last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 14:38

                @taconite said in Powering Arduino Nano and LEDs from 5V rail:

                Thank you @dc42

                What is the recommended max current draw from the 5V supply?

                2A total, less 200mA for the Duet and any current drawn by LCDs, endstops and Z probes.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  taconite
                  last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 17:24

                  So I guess I will do it like that:

                  LED_Controller.jpg

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                    peter247 @taconite
                    last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 17:33

                    @taconite

                    Why the optocoupler ?
                    I can't see why you need one , if it is to switch the buck converter on you can find some buck converter which have a enabled pin.

                    Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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                      taconite
                      last edited by 21 Oct 2020, 17:50

                      @peter247 With the PWM output of the Fan I want to control the color of the LED. e.G. 10% dutycylce = green. My Fan Voltage is 24V but the Arduino can only take 5V

                      Custom ANET A8
                      Custom Delta: D-PATCH (Delta Printer with Automatic Tool CHanging) https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/16082/d-patch?_=1596131234754

                      All I do here is under this license: CC BY-NC-SA

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                        peter247 @taconite
                        last edited by peter247 21 Oct 2020, 18:08

                        @taconite

                        So if I have got this right you are going to power your arduino and looks like spi controlled leds from a fan with pwm ?.

                        your diagram makes not sense to me !!!!

                        Are you use spi controlled leds like dotstar ?

                        Ender 5 plus linear rail and hemera powered by duet 2 wifi , CR10s pro v1 with bltouch mostly stock , BLV mgn Cube slowly being built powered by duet 3 mini 5+

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                          taconite
                          last edited by taconite 24 Oct 2020, 15:34

                          So I kind of made it work with this scematic

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                          Simulation show good results:

                          404ae155-54fe-4d96-a790-ea30322391d2-grafik.png

                          The Problem with that is, even if i just put on the Fan_PWM at 10% (S0.1) I get already 2.5V. Does anyone has an explanation of that? Because of that I am limited to less colors ("just 6").

                          This is the PCB I put together with an optocoupler, an DC/DC converter and an Arduino Nano.

                          20201024_171337asdf.jpg

                          Custom ANET A8
                          Custom Delta: D-PATCH (Delta Printer with Automatic Tool CHanging) https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/16082/d-patch?_=1596131234754

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