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    • vistalertundefined
      vistalert @vistalert
      last edited by

      By the way, where are you guys located? I'm in Perth, Australia (originally from the UK). I'm just loving the fact that you're in a time zone that makes this support process so responsive.

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      • Thaliosundefined
        Thalios
        last edited by

        I'm in Canada (Quebec). I'm not tech support, just a very enthusiastic Duet lover.

        Railcore II 300ZL with lots of upgrades (Duet 3 6HC)
        Heavily modified Ender 3 Pro (Duet 3 6HC)
        Heavily modified Tronxy X5SA-500 Pro with Chimera+ and dual bondtech (Duet 3 6HC)
        CR-10S Pro V2 (Duet 3 Mini 5+)
        and a bunch of SLA printers..

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        • vistalertundefined
          vistalert
          last edited by

          @Thalios - agreed. I love this product, and the community makes the journey very rewarding.

          Sad to say, with the new config changes and moving the connector to io5, my BL touch probe is still failing to stop the bed rising when executiong G28 Z.

          Also, if I execute M401, and periodically, and briefly, tap the probe with my finger, the Z sensor in DWC always shows 0. I think I have to wait now for another BL Touch 3.1 to arrive, which may only be a couple more days.

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          • vistalertundefined
            vistalert @vistalert
            last edited by

            @Thalios - actually, may I ask if you have a brief sequence that you used to test your BLT?

            For example, did you HOMEX/Y then execute G30, etc?

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            • Thaliosundefined
              Thalios
              last edited by Thalios

              When testing on a new printer, I home X, then Y, then set the bed far enough to stop it manually, and do a manual G30. If the bed stops when I manually push the bl touch in, i know it's good to go.

              also, did you create a deployprobe.g and retractprobe.g?

              This is my homez.g.

              G91
              G1 Z5 F800 H2			;_RRF3_ change S2 to H2
              G90
              G1 X150 Y150 F2400		; Move head to center of bed
              M558 A1 F800 B0			; Set single probing at faster feed rate
              G30 				    ; Do a single probe to home our Z axis
              M558 A5 F120 B1			; Set multi probing at slower feed rate
              G30				        ; Probe again to get a more accurate position
              G1 Z2 F200
              

              Railcore II 300ZL with lots of upgrades (Duet 3 6HC)
              Heavily modified Ender 3 Pro (Duet 3 6HC)
              Heavily modified Tronxy X5SA-500 Pro with Chimera+ and dual bondtech (Duet 3 6HC)
              CR-10S Pro V2 (Duet 3 Mini 5+)
              and a bunch of SLA printers..

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @vistalert
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                @vistalert said in Duet3 BLTOUCH3.1 Probe deploys but doesn't trigger on Z Home:

                @Thalios @Phaedrux well what is interesting to the novice is how some add the Z endstop indicating a Z probe, and others seem to have a complete absence of Z endstop config.

                It's actually irrelevant to the probe how the z endstop is defined, because the probe is defined in M558 and G31 and called with G30. You can actually define the Z endstop as an endstop and use a z endstop in addition to the probe. G1 H1 Z-400 (home with an endstop) and G30 (home with the probe).

                The reason an endstop can be defined as a probe is for using a probe device on an axis other than Z such as XY.

                @vistalert said in Duet3 BLTOUCH3.1 Probe deploys but doesn't trigger on Z Home:

                By the way, where are you guys located?

                Canada as well. Saskatchewan.

                @vistalert said in Duet3 BLTOUCH3.1 Probe deploys but doesn't trigger on Z Home:

                Also, if I execute M401, and periodically, and briefly, tap the probe with my finger, the Z sensor in DWC always shows 0.

                This is to be expected. Sending M401 will just deploy the servo pin. So poking the pin in this state won't cause anything to register as triggered. Only when G30 is sent does the firmware deploy the probe, move the axis, and wait for a trigger signal. Even so, the trigger pulse from the BLtouch is incredibly short and then resets when the pin is pulled back up. This combined with the web interface being unable to update fast enough means that with a BLTouch you'll rarely see the status change to 1000 even in normal operation.

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                • vistalertundefined
                  vistalert
                  last edited by

                  @Thalios yeah - M401 / M402 both deploy/retract.

                  I'll try G30. I've been clicking HOME Z in the DWC UI with the following in homez.g

                  ; homez.g
                  ; called to home the Z axis
                  ;
                  ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Tue Oct 20 2020 23:24:46 GMT+0800 (Australian Western Standard Time)

                  G91 ; relative positioning
                  G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position

                  G90 ; absolute positioning
                  G1 X250 Y250 F6000 ; go to first probe point
                  G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

                  ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                  ;G91 ; relative positioning
                  ;G1 Z5 F100 ; lift Z relative to current position
                  ;G90 ; absolute positioning

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                  • vistalertundefined
                    vistalert @Phaedrux
                    last edited by

                    @Phaedrux definitely looks like I should be testing with G10 not G28 Z 🙂

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Well G28 Z calls homez and your homez contains a move to position the probe and then does a G30 to probe the bed, so that's a fine way to test.

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                      • vistalertundefined
                        vistalert
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux @Thalios - G30 same outcome, bed doesn't stop.

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                        • Thaliosundefined
                          Thalios
                          last edited by

                          actually, my deployprobe.g has:

                          M280 P0 S10 ; deploy BLTouch
                          
                          
                          

                          and retract:

                          M280 P0 S90
                          

                          Railcore II 300ZL with lots of upgrades (Duet 3 6HC)
                          Heavily modified Ender 3 Pro (Duet 3 6HC)
                          Heavily modified Tronxy X5SA-500 Pro with Chimera+ and dual bondtech (Duet 3 6HC)
                          CR-10S Pro V2 (Duet 3 Mini 5+)
                          and a bunch of SLA printers..

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                          • vistalertundefined
                            vistalert @Thalios
                            last edited by

                            @Thalios - ditto for me too. Same commands in deploy/retract.

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                            • vistalertundefined
                              vistalert
                              last edited by

                              @Thalios out of interest - what is your printer spec? Home design/build?

                              Mine is Rat Rig VCORE pro / linear rails / triple z screws.
                              Volcano hot end, titan aero extruder.

                              Interested to know for when I do finally reach bed calibration.

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                              • Thaliosundefined
                                Thalios
                                last edited by

                                Railcore II 300ZL fully upgraded, duet 3 6HC, enclosure, E3D V6 Gold because I prefer it to the Mosquito.

                                I have a D3 on a Ender 3 Pro and a Tronxy X5SA-500 Pro. I have a Duet 2 Wifi on a frankenstein Tevo Tarantula that I home built to 330x330x300 with E3D V6. I'm waiting on the Duet 3 mini to go in my other Ender 3 Pro.

                                Railcore II 300ZL with lots of upgrades (Duet 3 6HC)
                                Heavily modified Ender 3 Pro (Duet 3 6HC)
                                Heavily modified Tronxy X5SA-500 Pro with Chimera+ and dual bondtech (Duet 3 6HC)
                                CR-10S Pro V2 (Duet 3 Mini 5+)
                                and a bunch of SLA printers..

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @vistalert
                                  last edited by

                                  @vistalert said in Duet3 BLTOUCH3.1 Probe deploys but doesn't trigger on Z Home:

                                  G30 same outcome, bed doesn't stop.

                                  I'd be inclined to connect the BLtouch directly to the board pins without extension and test on the bench (keeping the bltouch vertical) to see if it's in fact a poor connection with the white trigger signal wire.

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                                  • Thaliosundefined
                                    Thalios
                                    last edited by

                                    I was looking at your Config.g file.

                                    2 things I see different from mine:

                                    You have a endstop configured for Z. Can you try to take that off? (M574 Z1 S2)

                                    and the "^" in the probe type (M558).

                                    Just to see if that solves it.

                                    Railcore II 300ZL with lots of upgrades (Duet 3 6HC)
                                    Heavily modified Ender 3 Pro (Duet 3 6HC)
                                    Heavily modified Tronxy X5SA-500 Pro with Chimera+ and dual bondtech (Duet 3 6HC)
                                    CR-10S Pro V2 (Duet 3 Mini 5+)
                                    and a bunch of SLA printers..

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                                    • Thaliosundefined
                                      Thalios
                                      last edited by

                                      Did you do a full continuity test from the multipin connector on the BLtouch all the way to the connector on the board to see if it follows through on all pins with no shorts?

                                      Railcore II 300ZL with lots of upgrades (Duet 3 6HC)
                                      Heavily modified Ender 3 Pro (Duet 3 6HC)
                                      Heavily modified Tronxy X5SA-500 Pro with Chimera+ and dual bondtech (Duet 3 6HC)
                                      CR-10S Pro V2 (Duet 3 Mini 5+)
                                      and a bunch of SLA printers..

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                                      • Vetiundefined
                                        Veti @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by

                                        @Phaedrux said in Duet3 BLTOUCH3.1 Probe deploys but doesn't trigger on Z Home:

                                        I'd be inclined to connect the BLtouch directly to the board pins

                                        he cant, he broke the original connector. he posted a picture of his fixed connector in the beginning of the thread.

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator @Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          @Veti said in Duet3 BLTOUCH3.1 Probe deploys but doesn't trigger on Z Home:

                                          @Phaedrux said in Duet3 BLTOUCH3.1 Probe deploys but doesn't trigger on Z Home:

                                          I'd be inclined to connect the BLtouch directly to the board pins

                                          he cant, he broke the original connector. he posted a picture of his fixed connector in the beginning of the thread.

                                          Oh right. Forgot about that. It's one long thread of many.

                                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                          • vistalertundefined
                                            vistalert
                                            last edited by

                                            You actually can't connect the original connector to the D3. It's a group of 3, ground/yellow/white, then a group of two +v/ground. The D3 io pins require that the default connectors be removed so the wires can be organised to match the io pins.

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