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    jay_s_uk @chrishamm
    last edited by jay_s_uk 11 Oct 2020, 21:47 10 Nov 2020, 21:47

    @chrishamm ah, well that'll probably be when I last tested it so I stand corrected
    I just installed the app again and can see the duet mini and an LPC+SBC printer.
    Does the duet 2 wifi support it? Is the mDNS built into the wifi firmware or the duet firmware itself?

    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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      chrishamm administrators @jay_s_uk
      last edited by 10 Nov 2020, 21:53

      @jay_s_uk Yes, the Duet 2 WiFi (and the upcoming Duet 3 Mini 5+) support mDNS and the app supports them because the WiFi firmware sets up its own little mDNS server. On the Duet 3 + SBC (i.e. with DuetPi) we have Avahi running on Linux with a custom service file. On the Duet 2 Ethernet/Maestro we only have a responder for mDNS hostname queries. AFAIK we use mDNS responders by LwIP for Duet 3 Ethernet variants which can be found by the app as well.

      Duet software engineer

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        nomukaiki @chrishamm
        last edited by 10 Nov 2020, 21:59

        @chrishamm out of curiosity, why not allowing to enter manually the printer hostname?
        I usually create a portforward on my router so that I can monitor/control the printers outside of the local network. Is this uncommon ?

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          chrishamm administrators @nomukaiki
          last edited by 10 Nov 2020, 22:12

          @nomukaiki Sure, that's a good idea, I just haven't touched the app for ages πŸ™‚

          Duet software engineer

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            nomukaiki @chrishamm
            last edited by 10 Nov 2020, 22:18

            @chrishamm hopefully you will not need to and I manage to complete mine πŸ˜„

            If you have some real responses for rr_status?type=1 2 & 3 on a few different configurations that would be useful, since I only have 2 printers with simple setup (1 tool, 1 extruder, zprobe is bltouch). I could mock this, but having it confirmed from real printers would be ideal. Thanks.

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              chrishamm administrators @nomukaiki
              last edited by 10 Nov 2020, 22:24

              @nomukaiki See here. Just be aware that the object model (available via rr_model) is preferred because it's exposed by DSF and Duets in standalone mode whereas status responses are not provided by DSF (although you could write an emulator plugin for rr_ requests using the latest DSF beta).

              Duet software engineer

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                nomukaiki @chrishamm
                last edited by 10 Nov 2020, 22:32

                @chrishamm many thanks!
                I feel silly not having seen this before from the root of the firmware spec. I was under the impression that the network was a separate module.

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                  arhi @nomukaiki
                  last edited by 11 Nov 2020, 02:11

                  @nomukaiki said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

                  @arhi What do you really like about Printoid?

                  there is nothing special about it that I specifically like. I like it as it is so far the best app for octoprint that I tried (I did not try many I have to admit), and I like that it works on "el crap" 25eur android phone that I have a bunch of.

                  @chrishamm said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

                  What platform are you talking about? If you're looking for an Android app, I made one years ago, although I guess I could polish it again. Anyway, it's still working on Android 11 and lets you find Duets conveniently on the same network.

                  android and ios but mostly android if you ask me. might be cool if you had that app open source if someone is maybe interested to upgrade it πŸ™‚ . it's not very "application like" it's more like web from what I see.. but I don't see anything else available..

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                    T3P3Tony administrators @arhi
                    last edited by 11 Nov 2020, 09:02

                    @arhi said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

                    might be cool if you had that app open source

                    @chrishamm said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

                    The source code is available here: https://github.com/Duet3D/FindMyDuet

                    www.duet3d.com

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                      nomukaiki
                      last edited by nomukaiki 11 Dec 2020, 14:56 11 Nov 2020, 20:43

                      How would you rank or score the below features for a native app?
                      Can you please reply with your preferred order of importance? Most important on top. Thanks.

                      1- Available on very old devices (Android, iOS)
                      2- Open source
                      3- Auto discovery of printers on local network
                      4- 3d GCode preview and sync current printing layer
                      5- Live webcam
                      6- Timelapses
                      7- Full management/control/configuration of Duet printer (similar to DWC)
                      8- Reduced set of features but adapted for mobile devices (similar to Printoid or DuetPanel)
                      9- Status change push notifications
                      10- Temperature chart with download full graph option
                      11- Dark/Light colour themes
                      12- AI detection of failed print (detect skipping filament steps, part detached from base and stringing printing)
                      13- Easy and secure remote access from outside of local network

                      My preferred order:
                      8, 4, 9, 5, 13, 11, 12, 3, 6, 1, 10, 7, 2

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                        arhi @nomukaiki
                        last edited by 11 Nov 2020, 20:57

                        @nomukaiki said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

                        How would you rank'

                        1- Available on very old devices (Android 4.1 with 128-256MB RAM)
                        2- Open source
                        5- Live webcam
                        13- multiple printers supported in same time
                        7- Full control (management and configuration - irrelevant)

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                          jay_s_uk
                          last edited by jay_s_uk 11 Nov 2020, 21:13 11 Nov 2020, 21:11

                          remote access to a duet in a similar fashion that can can be done with octoprint
                          obviously an SBC would be required for this though

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                            Sindarius
                            last edited by 12 Nov 2020, 00:09

                            At one point some time ago I started work on a flutter app to control my printers. Been so busy with other projects I haven’t been able to get back to it.

                            https://youtu.be/u6HS1jbjhvA

                            There is a lot of potential to build some creative duet controls depending on need.

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                              nomukaiki @Sindarius
                              last edited by 12 Nov 2020, 09:47

                              @Sindarius said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

                              I started work on a flutter app to control my printers

                              This is great. Hopefully I will manage to go a bit further. I am focusing first on the application core (network, data layer, reactive services, etc) and then will do the UI. But I also got the basics working quickly, so there is hope πŸ™‚

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                                jay_s_uk @nomukaiki
                                last edited by 12 Nov 2020, 09:51

                                @nomukaiki free for testing if you need any.
                                I have enough machines to play with

                                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                  nomukaiki @jay_s_uk
                                  last edited by 12 Nov 2020, 09:56

                                  @jay_s_uk said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

                                  @nomukaiki free for testing if you need any.
                                  I have enough machines to play with

                                  That will be super useful! Thanks! I am interested to speaking with you about the "remote access" that you suggested. I am not sure what other type of remote access you are suggesting. Is it about accessing the printers outside of your local network?

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                                    jay_s_uk @nomukaiki
                                    last edited by 12 Nov 2020, 10:29

                                    @nomukaiki yea. Similar to this for octoprint https://plugins.octoprint.org/plugins/anywhere/

                                    Feel free to pm me

                                    Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                      arhi @jay_s_uk
                                      last edited by 12 Nov 2020, 10:32

                                      @jay_s_uk said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

                                      @nomukaiki yea. Similar to this for octoprint https://plugins.octoprint.org/plugins/anywhere/

                                      telegram is the best solution for this out there attm imho.
                                      in order to communicate with your printer you either need to allow access to it from the wan (port forwarding - complicated to many users, unsafe..) or you need your printer to initiate connection and in this case you need a "server" somewhere on the internet (the way "anywhere", "the spaghetty..", "telegram" and some other plugins work)... telegram's bot system is awesome and alow you to create super complicate system for free

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                                        jay_s_uk
                                        last edited by 12 Nov 2020, 10:36

                                        telegram was what I used to use back in the octoprint days.

                                        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                          nomukaiki @arhi
                                          last edited by 12 Nov 2020, 11:01

                                          @arhi said in Native App for Duet3d/RRF - Wishlist:

                                          you need your printer to initiate connection

                                          Is this already available on Duet? Can it be configured to do a "ping" to a configured host?

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