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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti @lui2004
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      @lui2004

      what slicer are you using?

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      • lui2004undefined
        lui2004 @Veti
        last edited by

        @Veti i use Simplify3d

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti @lui2004
          last edited by

          @lui2004

          see
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QRb54zVPfQ

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          • lui2004undefined
            lui2004 @Veti
            last edited by lui2004

            @Veti soo 😁 after i watch the Video and take the Profile from the Video, i have no stringing but little gaps or ooze i dont know what it is ?!

            Edit: With Layer height: 0.2,215°C i have no stringing
            with layer height 0.16,215°C again a lot of stringing

            what cause this problem ?

            After a second try with 200°C i have a lot of stringing

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti @lui2004
              last edited by

              @lui2004

              how confident are you in your e steps?

              M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z800.00 E139.19 ; set steps per mm

              marlins default for the ender 5 is 93.

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              • lui2004undefined
                lui2004
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                i have the Micro swiss Direct Drive, micro swiss gives me a start steps about 130 with 1.8 angle motor.

                but since Saturday i have the E3d 0.9 Angle motor and after calibrate the Esteps i have E277.89

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti
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                  can you print with cura or prusaslicer?

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                  • lui2004undefined
                    lui2004 @Veti
                    last edited by lui2004

                    @Veti yes of course i have both

                    i try now prusa slicer alpha2

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                    • lui2004undefined
                      lui2004 @Veti
                      last edited by

                      @Veti now i have print it with Prusa slicer

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                      • Vetiundefined
                        Veti
                        last edited by

                        the curling at the base suggests to me that you are printing to hot

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          @Phaedrux said in After Micro swiss DD upgrade,Extruder skips steps:

                          double checking your extruder calibration.

                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+4:+Calibration/40#s165

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                          • lui2004undefined
                            lui2004 @Phaedrux
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                            @Phaedrux Extruder was Calibrated yesterday all fine 110mm messured and 100mm was forward.

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                            • lui2004undefined
                              lui2004 @Veti
                              last edited by lui2004

                              @Veti i think i have solved it !
                              i have a all Metal hotend from micro swiss and it was recommended to increase temperatur 5-10°C so i have tested it with 222°C and i have no stringing just a little bit but its ok.

                              what i can print now to check if its all ok with my setup ?

                              Edit:

                              I have a 0.4 Nozzle which Extrusion Widht did i take ? in some how to and youtube Videos they say take EW: 0.45 another Video says take 0.48 Etrusion Widht, its a little bit confusing

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                              • lui2004undefined
                                lui2004 @Veti
                                last edited by lui2004

                                @Veti thats the benchy

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                                Can i make somrhing better ? This was printer with prusaslucer 2.3.0 alpha 2
                                If you need slicer config

                                i got this error with prusaslicer and duet wifi

                                Attempting to extrude with no tool selected
                                or
                                Setting temperature: no tool selected

                                i must heating up manual is there a fix ?

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                                • Vetiundefined
                                  Veti @lui2004
                                  last edited by

                                  @lui2004 said in After Micro swiss DD upgrade,Extruder skips steps:

                                  Attempting to extrude with no tool selected

                                  Add a T0 to the start g code

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @lui2004
                                    last edited by

                                    @lui2004 said in After Micro swiss DD upgrade,Extruder skips steps:

                                    I have a 0.4 Nozzle which Extrusion Widht did i take ? in some how to and youtube Videos they say take EW: 0.45 another Video says take 0.48 Etrusion Widht, its a little bit confusing

                                    It's not super critical. Generally it's recommended to use a value somewhat larger than the nozzle orifice. You can let PrusaSlicer handle it entirely by setting the width to 0. It will likely end up around .48. You can adjust it manually as well. Smaller to get better detail or to fit 2 perimeters evenly into a thin wall. Going below nozzle width can help make supports easier to break apart.

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                                    • lui2004undefined
                                      lui2004 @Veti
                                      last edited by lui2004

                                      @Veti @Phaedrux

                                      Hi
                                      I have made some modifications i want your opinion what i can make better

                                      config.g

                                      ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
                                      ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                      ;
                                      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Tue May 07 2019 23:06:50 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time)
                                      
                                      ; General preferences
                                      G90                                      ; Send absolute coordinates...
                                      M83                                      ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                      
                                      ; Network
                                      M550 P"Ender 5"                          ; Set machine name
                                      M552 S1                                  ; Enable network
                                      M586 P0 S1                               ; Enable HTTP
                                      M586 P1 S0                               ; Disable FTP
                                      M586 P2 S0                               ; Disable Telnet
                                      
                                      ; Drives
                                      M569 P0 S1                               ; Physical drive 0 goes forwards
                                      M569 P1 S1                               ; Physical drive 1 goes forwards
                                      M569 P2 S0                               ; Physical drive 2 goes backwards
                                      M569 P3 S1                              ; Physical drive 3 goes forwards
                                      M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3                               ; set drive mapping
                                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1							; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                      M92 X80.20 Y80.12 Z794.04 E277.89             ; set steps per mm
                                      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E4000.00      ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                      M203 X15000.00 Y15000.00 Z600.00 E8000.00  ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z200.00 E5000.00          ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                      M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E1400 I30                   ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                      M84 S30                                  ; Set idle timeout
                                      
                                      
                                      ; Axis Limits
                                      M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                         ; Set axis minima
                                      M208 X220 Y220 Z300 S0                   ; Set axis maxima
                                      
                                      ; Endstops
                                      M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                                      M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop"                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                                      M574 Z1 S2 									   ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                                      
                                      ;Filament Sensors
                                      M591 D0 P2 C"!e0_stop" S1   			   ;Extruder 1(0)
                                      
                                      
                                      M950 S0 C"exp.heater7"                         ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                                      M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H3 F60 T6000 A10 R0.75 S0.003            ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                                      G31 P500 X41.2 Y4.5 Z2.498                  ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                      M557 X41.2:221.2 Y4.5:219.5 S20                       ; define mesh grid
                                      M671 X28.8:198.8:198:28.8 Y24:24:194:194
                                      
                                      
                                      
                                      ; Heaters
                                      M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                                      M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                          ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                                      M307 H0 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                                      M140 H0                                        ; map heated bed to heater 0
                                      M143 H0 S120                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                                      M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                                      M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                      M143 H1 S300 								   ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
                                      M307 H1 B0 S1.00           
                                      
                                      ; Fans
                                      M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                           ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                                      M106 P0 S0 H-1                                 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                           ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                                      M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                              ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                      
                                      ; Tools
                                      M563 P0 D0 H1                            ; Define tool 0 S3D
                                      ;M563 P0 D0 H1 F0							; Für Prusa Slicer
                                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                          ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                                      G10 P0 R0 S0                             ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                                      
                                      ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled
                                      
                                      ; Custom settings are not configured
                                      M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
                                      M572 D0 S0.05 ; Pressure Advance
                                      M204 P500 T2000
                                      M501
                                      

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                                      this is my prusaslicer settings:

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                                        Your extrusion multiplier as configured in that screen shot is set to 0.4 for all move types (read the hover text to see how it's calculated) to let the slicer use it's default set the first number to 0 as well. Nothing wrong with 0.4 per se, especially on small detailed models, but going a bit above nozzle size as the default does (25% above I believe) will allow for stronger parts and maybe some reduced print times.

                                        Your print speeds are also very conservative. You could likely double those speeds and have adequate quality.

                                        The benchy appears slightly over extruded with some strings. Dropping your extrusion multiplier form 98% to 95% would likely help with that.

                                        Look into enabling firmware retraction in the printer tab. Then you can more easily fine tune it with M207.

                                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M207_Set_retract_length

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                                        • lui2004undefined
                                          lui2004 @Phaedrux
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                                          @Phaedrux inwill test tommorow

                                          But can you help me with firmware retract? Is it not the same with setting in my slicer ? If i enable firmware retract do i need retraction in my slicer ?

                                          Thanks

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
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                                            For firmware retraction you tell the slicer you want to use firmware retraction. There's a check box in the printer tab. Then you configure how much retraction and how fast etc using the m207 command. That lets you modify the various parameters on the fly during a print to more easily test what works best. Then you can put that commabd in config.g to make it permanent. It also means you can modify it more easily for different filaments or if you find that you have too much or not enough in the middle of a print.

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