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    • Vetiundefined
      Veti @lui2004
      last edited by

      @lui2004

      how confident are you in your e steps?

      M92 X80.00 Y80.00 Z800.00 E139.19 ; set steps per mm

      marlins default for the ender 5 is 93.

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      • lui2004undefined
        lui2004
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        i have the Micro swiss Direct Drive, micro swiss gives me a start steps about 130 with 1.8 angle motor.

        but since Saturday i have the E3d 0.9 Angle motor and after calibrate the Esteps i have E277.89

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        • Vetiundefined
          Veti
          last edited by

          can you print with cura or prusaslicer?

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          • lui2004undefined
            lui2004 @Veti
            last edited by lui2004

            @Veti yes of course i have both

            i try now prusa slicer alpha2

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            • lui2004undefined
              lui2004 @Veti
              last edited by

              @Veti now i have print it with Prusa slicer

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by

                the curling at the base suggests to me that you are printing to hot

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by

                  @Phaedrux said in After Micro swiss DD upgrade,Extruder skips steps:

                  double checking your extruder calibration.

                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+4:+Calibration/40#s165

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                  • lui2004undefined
                    lui2004 @Phaedrux
                    last edited by

                    @Phaedrux Extruder was Calibrated yesterday all fine 110mm messured and 100mm was forward.

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                    • lui2004undefined
                      lui2004 @Veti
                      last edited by lui2004

                      @Veti i think i have solved it !
                      i have a all Metal hotend from micro swiss and it was recommended to increase temperatur 5-10°C so i have tested it with 222°C and i have no stringing just a little bit but its ok.

                      what i can print now to check if its all ok with my setup ?

                      Edit:

                      I have a 0.4 Nozzle which Extrusion Widht did i take ? in some how to and youtube Videos they say take EW: 0.45 another Video says take 0.48 Etrusion Widht, its a little bit confusing

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                      • lui2004undefined
                        lui2004 @Veti
                        last edited by lui2004

                        @Veti thats the benchy

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                        Can i make somrhing better ? This was printer with prusaslucer 2.3.0 alpha 2
                        If you need slicer config

                        i got this error with prusaslicer and duet wifi

                        Attempting to extrude with no tool selected
                        or
                        Setting temperature: no tool selected

                        i must heating up manual is there a fix ?

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti @lui2004
                          last edited by

                          @lui2004 said in After Micro swiss DD upgrade,Extruder skips steps:

                          Attempting to extrude with no tool selected

                          Add a T0 to the start g code

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @lui2004
                            last edited by

                            @lui2004 said in After Micro swiss DD upgrade,Extruder skips steps:

                            I have a 0.4 Nozzle which Extrusion Widht did i take ? in some how to and youtube Videos they say take EW: 0.45 another Video says take 0.48 Etrusion Widht, its a little bit confusing

                            It's not super critical. Generally it's recommended to use a value somewhat larger than the nozzle orifice. You can let PrusaSlicer handle it entirely by setting the width to 0. It will likely end up around .48. You can adjust it manually as well. Smaller to get better detail or to fit 2 perimeters evenly into a thin wall. Going below nozzle width can help make supports easier to break apart.

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                            • lui2004undefined
                              lui2004 @Veti
                              last edited by lui2004

                              @Veti @Phaedrux

                              Hi
                              I have made some modifications i want your opinion what i can make better

                              config.g

                              ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.21)
                              ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                              ;
                              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v2 on Tue May 07 2019 23:06:50 GMT+0100 (British Summer Time)
                              
                              ; General preferences
                              G90                                      ; Send absolute coordinates...
                              M83                                      ; ...but relative extruder moves
                              
                              ; Network
                              M550 P"Ender 5"                          ; Set machine name
                              M552 S1                                  ; Enable network
                              M586 P0 S1                               ; Enable HTTP
                              M586 P1 S0                               ; Disable FTP
                              M586 P2 S0                               ; Disable Telnet
                              
                              ; Drives
                              M569 P0 S1                               ; Physical drive 0 goes forwards
                              M569 P1 S1                               ; Physical drive 1 goes forwards
                              M569 P2 S0                               ; Physical drive 2 goes backwards
                              M569 P3 S1                              ; Physical drive 3 goes forwards
                              M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3                               ; set drive mapping
                              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1							; configure microstepping with interpolation
                              M92 X80.20 Y80.12 Z794.04 E277.89             ; set steps per mm
                              M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E4000.00      ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                              M203 X15000.00 Y15000.00 Z600.00 E8000.00  ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                              M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z200.00 E5000.00          ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                              M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E1400 I30                   ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                              M84 S30                                  ; Set idle timeout
                              
                              
                              ; Axis Limits
                              M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                         ; Set axis minima
                              M208 X220 Y220 Z300 S0                   ; Set axis maxima
                              
                              ; Endstops
                              M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                              M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop"                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                              M574 Z1 S2 									   ; configure Z-probe endstop for low end on Z
                              
                              ;Filament Sensors
                              M591 D0 P2 C"!e0_stop" S1   			   ;Extruder 1(0)
                              
                              
                              M950 S0 C"exp.heater7"                         ; create servo pin 0 for BLTouch
                              M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H3 F60 T6000 A10 R0.75 S0.003            ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                              G31 P500 X41.2 Y4.5 Z2.498                  ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                              M557 X41.2:221.2 Y4.5:219.5 S20                       ; define mesh grid
                              M671 X28.8:198.8:198:28.8 Y24:24:194:194
                              
                              
                              
                              ; Heaters
                              M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                              M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                          ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                              M307 H0 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                              M140 H0                                        ; map heated bed to heater 0
                              M143 H0 S120                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
                              M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T98801 B4185 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                              M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                              M143 H1 S300 								   ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
                              M307 H1 B0 S1.00           
                              
                              ; Fans
                              M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                           ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                              M106 P0 S0 H-1                                 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                              M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                           ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                              M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                              ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                              
                              ; Tools
                              M563 P0 D0 H1                            ; Define tool 0 S3D
                              ;M563 P0 D0 H1 F0							; Für Prusa Slicer
                              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                          ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                              G10 P0 R0 S0                             ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                              
                              ; Automatic saving after power loss is not enabled
                              
                              ; Custom settings are not configured
                              M575 P1 S1 B57600 ; enable support for PanelDue
                              M572 D0 S0.05 ; Pressure Advance
                              M204 P500 T2000
                              M501
                              

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                              this is my prusaslicer settings:

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
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                                Your extrusion multiplier as configured in that screen shot is set to 0.4 for all move types (read the hover text to see how it's calculated) to let the slicer use it's default set the first number to 0 as well. Nothing wrong with 0.4 per se, especially on small detailed models, but going a bit above nozzle size as the default does (25% above I believe) will allow for stronger parts and maybe some reduced print times.

                                Your print speeds are also very conservative. You could likely double those speeds and have adequate quality.

                                The benchy appears slightly over extruded with some strings. Dropping your extrusion multiplier form 98% to 95% would likely help with that.

                                Look into enabling firmware retraction in the printer tab. Then you can more easily fine tune it with M207.

                                https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M207_Set_retract_length

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                                • lui2004undefined
                                  lui2004 @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by

                                  @Phaedrux inwill test tommorow

                                  But can you help me with firmware retract? Is it not the same with setting in my slicer ? If i enable firmware retract do i need retraction in my slicer ?

                                  Thanks

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    For firmware retraction you tell the slicer you want to use firmware retraction. There's a check box in the printer tab. Then you configure how much retraction and how fast etc using the m207 command. That lets you modify the various parameters on the fly during a print to more easily test what works best. Then you can put that commabd in config.g to make it permanent. It also means you can modify it more easily for different filaments or if you find that you have too much or not enough in the middle of a print.

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                                    • lui2004undefined
                                      lui2004 @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @Phaedrux ok now i have downloaded the retract model stl
                                      i have install the macros

                                      how i start now for firmware retraction ?

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                                        Well you'll need to tell the slicer to use firmware retraction. That will insert a G10 or G11 command into the code file when a retraction is needed.

                                        Then you'll need to configure your retraction settings with an M207 command. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M207_Set_retract_length

                                        Use that to set the speed and distance of retraction and unretraction.

                                        Then during the print you can send an M207 command to modify one of those parameters every few layers to see how it behaves.

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                                        • lui2004undefined
                                          lui2004 @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @Phaedrux ok i will try it

                                          do i need to uncheck retraction on prusaslicer ?

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
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                                            In Prusa Slicer go to Printer Settings, general tab, and near the bottom check "use firmware retraction". Then slice your file.

                                            Then you'll need to have a M207 command in your config.g to set the starting values.

                                            This set of macros may help make the tuning easier, especially if you have a PanelDue.

                                            https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/6181/tuning-macros-menus-accel-jerk-retraction-pressure-advance

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