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    • A Former User?
      A Former User @Frederik
      last edited by A Former User

      @Frederik said in First Layer and Extrusion Problems:

      @CaLviNx how do you like the mini ir sensor ? is it working better than the bltouch ?

      Well that's a touchy subject for me at the moment....

      I have 8 operational printers (and 1 core-xy in the build stage) at home, 6 of those that are running have Duet-3 's (with LC-1 tool-boards) 2 have Duet-2 wifi's installed.

      All have IR Sensors fitted. The Duet-2 machines are still running RRF-2 as they just run and run and print day in day out without issue and have ran for years and years without issue.

      The Duet-3 boards (all with LC1 Tool-boards) all suffer from an intermittent issue of the IR sensor triggering too soon (as in triggering when the head is about 20mm from the bed surface) doesnt happen all the time, you can boot and home and they home fine to the correct height. then you can go to home and the sensor triggers at 20mm again, I can overcome it by issuing a G92 Z30 command and manually driving the bed up very close to the head then homing Z again and this time it reads and prints correctly.(it is not the print surface as this happens on a few differing surfaces and if it was the print surface it wouldn't explain why it only happens intermittently)

      As of the other day i updated my boards (and tool boards) to the newest firmware and the issue seems to be gone but we will see.

      On the Duet-2's with older firmware, NO issues ever.

      And as much as I personally dont like the Bl-Touch (I dont like moving parts of the pin which can get bent, and I dont like the packaging issues in mounting it), I do have a genuine one here, I did test it when I started getting early trigger issues on the IR sensor and it worked fine.

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti @Frederik
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        @Frederik said in First Layer and Extrusion Problems:

        what would i have to change in my config.g to use a capazitive sensor with 3 wires ?

        see
        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe#Section_NPN_output_normally_open_inductive_or_capacitive_sensor
        or
        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe#Section_PNP_output_normally_open_inductive_or_capacitive_sensor

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        • Frederikundefined
          Frederik @Veti
          last edited by

          @Veti Thank you.

          Do you have an idea why I can't get optical switches to work? the LED on the sensor work and trigger, but the duet doesn't recognize it

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          • Frederikundefined
            Frederik @A Former User
            last edited by

            @CaLviNx WOW, 8 operationl Printers ? Thats amazing. Do you make a living out of printing ?

            Ok, good to know, i was thinking about getting one for testing purposes.

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti @Frederik
              last edited by Veti

              @Frederik said in First Layer and Extrusion Problems:

              Do you have an idea why I can't get optical switches to work? the LED on the sensor work and trigger, but the duet doesn't recognize it

              maybe you switched signal and ground. how did you connect it. the lerdge endstop work fine in my delta.
              btw only black objects will really block the light.

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              • Frederikundefined
                Frederik @Veti
                last edited by Frederik

                @Veti i connect ground to G, V to 5V, and S to the io.in.

                the led on the switch is on but i doesnt trigger in the software

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti
                  last edited by

                  the lerdge endstops are meant for 3.3v but should also work in 5v mode

                  post the changes you did in the config

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                  • Frederikundefined
                    Frederik @Veti
                    last edited by Frederik

                    @Veti i used this config:

                    M574 X2 S1 P"!io1.in"                                 ; configure active-high endstop for high end on X via pin !io1.in
                    M574 Y1 S1 P"!io0.in"                                 ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin !io0.in
                    

                    Should i connect with the additional resistors like it is mentioned in the dozuki

                    3.3V-compatible optical endstop
                    Connect Gnd to Gnd, Vcc of the opto sensor to 3V3, and the output of the opto sensor to STP/IN. Opto sensors usually have active high outputs, so use S1 in the M574 command.
                    
                    Note: opto endstops made to the Generation 7 design are often claimed to be 3.3V-compatible, but in fact the design is marginal with a 5V supply and frequently doesn't work at all on 3.3V. Here are some workarounds:
                    
                    - This design normally works with a 3.3V supply if you replace the 180 ohm opto switch series resistor resistor by 100 ohms. Tip: if your opto endswitch uses surface mount resistors, instead of removing the 180 ohm resistor it is easier to solder a 200 or 220 ohm resistor on top of it, so that the two resistors are connected in parallel. Make sure you pick the correct resistor to replace or solder another on top of! There is often also a load resistor, value 1K or higher.
                    
                    - If you are using Duet 3 then you can use the 5V pin on the IO_ connector to provide power to the opto endstop instead of using 3.3V power.
                    
                    - If you are using a Duet WiFi/Ethernet hardware rev 1.04 or later or a Duet Maestro, these boards can tolerate 5V on the endstop inputs. So you can provide them with a 5V supply instead (leaving the centre pin of the endstop connector not connected) and connect the outputs of your endstops directly to the STP/IN pins of the endstop connectors.
                    
                    
                    
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                    • Vetiundefined
                      Veti
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                      i run the endstops fine on my delta without resistors. the lerdge endstops are actually designed for 3.3v because the lerdge board run on 3.3v

                      check with m119 if you can trigger them.

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                      • Frederikundefined
                        Frederik @Veti
                        last edited by Frederik

                        @Veti no, it doesent work

                        i just found a seconnd pair of endstop switches for a ramps board

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti
                          last edited by

                          maybe a bad crimp in the cable?

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                            Frederik @Veti
                            last edited by

                            @Veti the led on the switch is on , but it doesent trigger

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                              Veti @Frederik
                              last edited by

                              @Frederik
                              it could be a bad crimp in the signal wire

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                                Veti @Frederik
                                last edited by

                                @Frederik
                                the advantage of the lerdge endstops is they light up when they are triggered. the ramps endstops light up when they are not

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                                  Frederik @Veti
                                  last edited by

                                  @Veti one moment , i will check it a second time

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                                    Frederik @Veti
                                    last edited by Frederik

                                    @Veti you were right 😉 I tested it with the original cable and it triggers .....yeah...thank you

                                    now both the ramps and lerdge are functioning

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