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    • rodsmithundefined
      rodsmith
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      I'm having problems with the power to my hotend heater cutting out. I originally had a v1.3 with this problem. I repeatedly re-wired and replaced the cable-end connector, tested continuity, etc. It appeared that the connectivity would break as the effector moved around. After a thermal fault event, I could usually recover temporarily by jiggling the "input 1" connector, but the problem would always recur, often multiple times per print. The only thing I could find that would help for longer periods was to jam a small amount of aluminum foil into the connector, which presumably made for a more stable connection. Eventually, though, the Smart Effector gave out completely; it failed and I just couldn't get it to recover.

      I replaced it with a new v2 Smart Effector, but it's begun to develop the same problem. Again, I completely replaced the cable-end connector with one with a built-in strain relief, but the problem has recurred and is just getting worse, after less than a month with the new Smart Effector.

      Does anybody have any tips on how to get this to work reliably? Thanks!

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      • Adrian52undefined
        Adrian52 @rodsmith
        last edited by

        @rodsmith I bought this prewired strain relieved one from digikey

        https://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/molex/0451320610/WM16121-ND/6208008

        and had no further problems.

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        • rodsmithundefined
          rodsmith
          last edited by

          I bought something similar, but it's not really helped. I can't seem to find my order confirmation, so I'm not positive exactly what I got, but I think it was this:

          https://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/molex/2451320605/WM15769-ND/6565376

          It helped with one fan connection that was similarly unreliable, but it didn't really help with the heater cartridge connection. I tried this originally with the v1.3 board that's now completely shot. When the problem began to recur with the v2 board, I started over with a new Molex connector, but it's not helped. I'm considering bypassing the Smart Effector entirely and wiring the heater cartridge straight into the supply wires.

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          • Alex.crundefined
            Alex.cr
            last edited by Alex.cr

            I strain relived the whole cable by ziptieing the first 2 inches of the wire bundle to the Bowden tube coming from my extruder. I haven’t had any issues with cables breaking. Just a thought.

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            • Carloundefined
              Carlo @rodsmith
              last edited by

              @rodsmith

              Lengthen your cables and add something like
              https://www.amazon.co.uk/Retracting-Badge-Retractable-Carabiner-Individually/dp/B0016BVOM0

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @Alex.cr
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                @Alex-cr said in Heat problems with Smart Effector:

                I strain relived the whole cable by ziptieing the first 2 inches of the wire bundle to the Bowden tube coming from my extruder. I haven’t had any issues with cables breaking. Just a thought.

                That's what I did too. Wires that flex close to their terminations always need strain relief.

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                • rodsmithundefined
                  rodsmith @dc42
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for the suggestions. I'm using a Zesty Nimble, so there's no Bowden tube, but the Nimble's drive cable should serve the same purpose. FWIW, I've been using this with the wires tied to one of the diagonal rods for strain relief, but I suppose the Bowden tube/Zesty Nimble cable might work better.

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                  • Alex.crundefined
                    Alex.cr
                    last edited by

                    You are using a high quality cable connection that I can’t imagine that would be the problem when it’s new. The nimble’s drive cable will flex less than an arm will. I would think it would help. The only other suggestion would be to use silicone wiring but I don’t think that would help much over you’re pre assembled wire bundle.

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