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    • didi767undefined
      didi767
      last edited by didi767

      I increased it to 1.350 and it looks a little bit better.
      I followed the steps as I mentioned but I still don't understand the concept of the mesh grid, I don't see the compensation taking place (as we speak, I see that the print is ruined LOL, the second layer is all messed up...) I'm lost 😞

      oh.. and the center of the print (it's a grid of squares.. the bed leveling gcode) it looks amazing, but only in the center where I actually did the calibration of the bltouch with the Z offset, but that's obvious that it would be perfect, but the rest of the bed is not..

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti @didi767
        last edited by

        post a picture of your height map.

        mesh grid does not compensate for a wrong z offset. it compensates for imperfections in your bed.

        there are several reasons possible why the mesh grid might not be working as you would expect.
        your probe x y offset is wrong.
        gantry twisting, resulting in different trigger heights depending on position.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by

          After removing the G29 S1 from your homeall, you should probably re-home the printer and create a new heightmap.

          Then in your slicer start gcode add the G29 S1 after the G28.

          Have you calibrated your extruder yet? The perfect first layer is a combination of flow rate, nozzle distance, temperature, and bed surface.

          You may want to go through this entire calibration guide.https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Guide/Ender+3+Pro+and+Duet+Maestro+Guide+Part+4:+Calibration/40

          Then do a test print like this bedlevel_nozzle_0.4_200x200-0.3-0.8.stl

          Make sure the bed is clean.

          While that is printing you can adjust the Z height with baby stepping until the lines are cleanly sticking.

          Then you can take that baby stepping value and use it to modify your G31 Z trigger height. A larger trigger height will move the nozzle closer to the bed, and vice versa.

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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          • didi767undefined
            didi767
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            ![0_1607667539605_height_map.PNG](Uploading 100%) @Phaedrux said in [HELP] Ender 3 Pro + Duet WiFi 2:

            G29 S1

            Hey guys,

            so this is the current config files and the height map
            I went to Cura and added the G29 S1 after G28 Like you mentioned @Phaedrux
            I went over the calibration again and modified it.
            so I got 1.350 for the trigger offset, I'm assuming that I need to add few baby steps to make it lower, right? but can I configure that before the print? like getting the exact value I need to add?
            about the STL file, it didn't let me slice it but I can use the other file, it's okay, right?[3_1607667515380_homez.g](Uploading 100%) [2_1607667515380_homeall.g](Uploading 100%) [1_1607667515379_config.g](Uploading 100%) [0_1607667515376_bed.g](Uploading 100%)

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            • didi767undefined
              didi767
              last edited by

              height_map.PNG

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              • didi767undefined
                didi767
                last edited by

                homez.g homeall.g config.g bed.g

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti
                  last edited by

                  that bed is quite good.
                  you might get away with not using mesh bed leveling at all.

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                  • didi767undefined
                    didi767
                    last edited by

                    So this is the result of the bed leveing print, It looks okay but I've noticed something... it seems that on the left front corner it doesn't put a great first layer (and at this area the probe doesn't probe the bed since it's not above it, so the mesh bed doesn't reflect that area). does it have to do with that fact? so basically the bltouch is "useless" in my situation?
                    ![1_1607672217245_20201210_233124.jpg](Uploading 100%) ![0_1607672217243_20201210_233113.jpg](Uploading 100%)

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                    • didi767undefined
                      didi767
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                      20201210_233113.jpg

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                      • didi767undefined
                        didi767
                        last edited by

                        20201210_233124.jpg

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                        • didi767undefined
                          didi767
                          last edited by

                          So.. I'm not sure if I just realized something crucial.
                          the bltouch basically reduces the size of my "actual" printing bed? I need to remove the areas where the bltouch can't probe? if so, I thing I didn't configure the area of the mesh grid correctly 😕
                          I'm using a standard bltouch mounting (on the left side of the hot end). I'm assuming that the smaller the offset the better? (I mean bigger printing area?)

                          (I hope my questions are not silly, and sorry if they are, I'm literally learned about printing two weeks ago)

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                          • Vetiundefined
                            Veti
                            last edited by Veti

                            well you could try this probe.

                            https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32838312776.html

                            its very cheap( i use it on my delta). and it will turn the nozzle into a probe.

                            downside is, that you need to manually attach it and on an ender you would need to use the z stop again.

                            but unless you want to print big things all the time, the bltouch should be good enough.

                            edit: i am not sure if it fits, if i remember correctly the ender 3 has a thin nozzle.

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                            • didi767undefined
                              didi767
                              last edited by

                              So I was correct? btlouch does "shrink" my bed surface? if so, how can I reflect that on Cura?
                              I looked at the probe you mentioned and I thought maybe to use an ultrasonic sensor, but then again I just to thought about the hassle of making one to work with the printer 😕 too much work..

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by Phaedrux

                                No it doesn't shrink your available area. It just means it can't get a height measurement from the entire surface because of the offset. The firmware will extrapolate the non-probed area though. It's still usable.

                                Your heightmap looks quite good so the bed is pretty flat and well leveled. Maybe tilted a bit down on the right side.

                                Your test print looks pretty good.

                                Your homeall and homez use different points to probe,

                                homez
                                G1 X45 Y25 F6000 ; go to first probe point
                                G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

                                homeall
                                G1 X116 Y116 F6000 ; go to first bed probe point
                                G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

                                You should change the homez X Y position to match the one from homeall.

                                You can adjust the G31 Z value up or down to get the nozzle closer or farther away.

                                Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                • didi767undefined
                                  didi767
                                  last edited by didi767

                                  @Phaedrux done!
                                  Regarding the bed mesh area. so, my "extreme" points are:
                                  start:
                                  x - 43.5
                                  y - 20

                                  end:
                                  x - 228
                                  y - 230

                                  that the nozzle and probe on bed. I tried to enter those values in the define area for mesh but it didn't start utilizing the whole available surface as I wished for. I did (228-43.5)/5 to get the distance between each probing but it didn't work 😕

                                  another question I had, so the paper thickness I'm doing the manual bed leveling is 0.2mm. do I need to reflect that in Cura? I tired to edit the default profiles there but I didn't see anywhere to enable this option to edit any values (it's grayed out).

                                  at the same momentum (while you're online :))
                                  Is there a way for me to add custom buttons for the web GUI?
                                  Like adding quick buttons to disable all motors, extract and retract probe, go to specific locations on the bed, basically anything else that would be nice and accessible if needed?

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @didi767
                                    last edited by

                                    @didi767 said in [HELP] Ender 3 Pro + Duet WiFi 2:

                                    another question I had, so the paper thickness I'm doing the manual bed leveling is 0.2mm. do I need to reflect that in Cura? I tired to edit the default profiles there but I didn't see anywhere to enable this option to edit any values (it's grayed out).

                                    You can take account of that in the G31 value so that it's just applied all the time. Or just adjust the G31 based on how much baby stepping you need. Nothing needs to go in Cura.

                                    @didi767 said in [HELP] Ender 3 Pro + Duet WiFi 2:

                                    Is there a way for me to add custom buttons for the web GUI?

                                    You can create macros for any command you want and they will show up as buttons in the web interface more or less.

                                    For your mesh grid you can use P instead of S, which would specify the number of points to probe rather than the spacing.

                                    M557 X15:215 Y15:195 S20

                                    Getting the largest area probed will require some experimentation. If you're going over the edge on one side, bring it in, if you're not going far enough on a side, remember that you can't go farther than the nozzle.

                                    Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                    • didi767undefined
                                      didi767
                                      last edited by

                                      Hey Guys,

                                      So far so good 🙂 I'm able to print in great quality (I'm using fafts in all prints and it's great.
                                      I would like to add a webcam to the web GUI, is that possible? I heard that I can do that with pi but I'm already using the Duet so is that a capability?

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                                      • Vetiundefined
                                        Veti @didi767
                                        last edited by

                                        @didi767
                                        see https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/How_to_include_a_web_camera_image_in_Duet_Web_Control

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                                        • didi767undefined
                                          didi767 @Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          @Veti Bummer.. I thought it would be much more simple.
                                          on the same momentum :), is it possible to integrate the Duet with Cura? so I don't need to manually upload it each time?

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                                          • jay_s_ukundefined
                                            jay_s_uk @didi767
                                            last edited by

                                            @didi767 yes. theres a cura plugin available in the market place to allow uploading and automatic simulating or printing of a file

                                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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