• Tags
  • Documentation
  • Order
  • Register
  • Login
Duet3D Logo Duet3D
  • Tags
  • Documentation
  • Order
  • Register
  • Login

After Micro swiss DD upgrade,Extruder skips steps

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Solved
Tuning and tweaking
8
164
12.7k
Loading More Posts
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • undefined
    lui2004
    last edited by 7 Dec 2020, 11:32

    @Phaedrux said in After Micro swiss DD upgrade,Extruder skips steps:

    benchy hull line

    i will test it now with PLA and 100% part fan

    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
    • undefined
      lui2004
      last edited by 10 Dec 2020, 04:41

      Hi

      i have breake the cable of my thermistor 😞

      but i have a new pne here:

      specs:

      NTC-Thermistor 100 K 3950

      Thermistor Cartridge:
      Size: 1.25mmx2.0mm glass bead
      High accuracy: 1%
      Resistance value at 25°C=100K
      Wiring length: 1m / 39.3"
      Operating temperature range: -40 ° C + 300 ° C
      Rated power: 45MW

      how i set it in my config.g ?

      i have it like this :

      M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
      M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
      M143 H1 S300 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
      M307 H1 B0 S1.00

      is it ok ?

      undefined 1 Reply Last reply 10 Dec 2020, 04:57 Reply Quote 0
      • undefined
        Veti @lui2004
        last edited by 10 Dec 2020, 04:57

        @lui2004

        yes

        B3950 thermistors are bit hit and miss.
        Do not assume that when you are setting your temperature to 200C now that its the same temperature as before.

        undefined 1 Reply Last reply 10 Dec 2020, 04:58 Reply Quote 0
        • undefined
          lui2004 @Veti
          last edited by 10 Dec 2020, 04:58

          @Veti said in After Micro swiss DD upgrade,Extruder skips steps:

          B3950 thermistors are bit hit and miss.
          Do not assume that when you are setting your temperature to 200C now that its the same temperature as before.

          ok !

          which thermistor you prefer ?

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • undefined
            Veti
            last edited by 10 Dec 2020, 05:03

            Semitec 104GT-2 are better defined,

            e.g.
            https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32816085854.html

            i personally use a pt1000 but i dont think they exist in the glass bulb that you want.

            undefined 1 Reply Last reply 10 Dec 2020, 05:14 Reply Quote 0
            • undefined
              lui2004 @Veti
              last edited by 10 Dec 2020, 05:14

              @Veti said in After Micro swiss DD upgrade,Extruder skips steps:

              Semitec 104GT-2

              ok is this the correct one :

              https://reprapworld.de/products/extruder/extruder_parts/thermistors/104nt_4_r025h42g_semitec_thermistor_100k_ntc/?f=gs&f=gs&mkwid=sPXPyq0nv_dc|pcrid|191801720052|pkw||pmt||slid||prid|62&pgrid=50293152428&ptaid=pla-298340505777&gclid=CjwKCAiAiML-BRAAEiwAuWVgggb4ckwj-aGLGhTIkNoxYfI1v3Fr-CB8v40s1W2gqoAAvGfc1Hr1jRoC4CsQAvD_BwE

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • undefined
                Veti
                last edited by 10 Dec 2020, 05:16

                yes but you need the fibreglass sleeving.

                https://reprapworld.de/products/extruder/extruder_parts/thermistors/fibreglass_sleeving_incl_thermistor/

                undefined 1 Reply Last reply 10 Dec 2020, 05:17 Reply Quote 0
                • undefined
                  lui2004 @Veti
                  last edited by 10 Dec 2020, 05:17

                  @Veti

                  ok i will order this one now.

                  config for this thermistor are not the same as above right ?

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • undefined
                    Veti
                    last edited by 10 Dec 2020, 05:18

                    no

                    its B4725 C7.06e-8

                    undefined 1 Reply Last reply 13 Dec 2020, 15:13 Reply Quote 0
                    • undefined
                      lui2004 @Veti
                      last edited by 13 Dec 2020, 15:13

                      @Veti

                      last question 🙂

                      i change the thermistor,which is a good heater cartridge for my Ender 5 ?

                      undefined 1 Reply Last reply 13 Dec 2020, 15:15 Reply Quote 0
                      • undefined
                        Veti @lui2004
                        last edited by 13 Dec 2020, 15:15

                        @lui2004

                        is it heating up fast enough? then you dont need to change it.

                        i use these.
                        https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32857783159.html

                        undefined 1 Reply Last reply 13 Dec 2020, 15:18 Reply Quote 0
                        • undefined
                          lui2004 @Veti
                          last edited by 13 Dec 2020, 15:18

                          @Veti

                          i have strange temperature printing pla with 250°C or is it the thermistor that make problems ?

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • undefined
                            Veti
                            last edited by 13 Dec 2020, 15:23

                            what do you mean strange temperature.

                            pla does not normally need 250c to print

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • undefined
                              lui2004
                              last edited by 13 Dec 2020, 15:46

                              i know, usually i print with 200-205°C

                              you think is a thermistor problem or i need a new heater cartridge ?

                              i have remake pid tuning ,still the same i can print pla only with min. 250°C

                              undefined 1 Reply Last reply 13 Dec 2020, 15:49 Reply Quote 0
                              • undefined
                                Veti @lui2004
                                last edited by 13 Dec 2020, 15:49

                                @lui2004 said in After Micro swiss DD upgrade,Extruder skips steps:

                                i have remake pid tuning ,still the same i can print pla only with min. 250°C

                                pid tuning does not change the reported temperature.

                                this is an indication of a wrong configuration.

                                which thermistor are you using at the moment and what is your config line for it?

                                undefined 1 Reply Last reply 13 Dec 2020, 15:50 Reply Quote 0
                                • undefined
                                  lui2004 @Veti
                                  last edited by lui2004 13 Dec 2020, 15:50

                                  @Veti

                                  I have this :

                                  M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                                  M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                                  M143 H1 S300 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 300C
                                  M307 H1 B0 S1.00

                                  NTC-Thermistor 100 K 3950

                                  Thermistor Cartridge:
                                  Size: 1.25mmx2.0mm glass bead
                                  High accuracy: 1%
                                  Resistance value at 25°C=100K
                                  Wiring length: 1m / 39.3"
                                  Operating temperature range: -40 ° C + 300 ° C
                                  Rated power: 45MW
                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • undefined
                                    Veti
                                    last edited by 13 Dec 2020, 15:52

                                    yeah that is why i dont like B3950 thermistors. the reported temperature can be way off.

                                    undefined 1 Reply Last reply 13 Dec 2020, 15:55 Reply Quote 0
                                    • undefined
                                      lui2004 @Veti
                                      last edited by 13 Dec 2020, 15:55

                                      @Veti so the Problem is the thermistor?

                                      So i will wait the New one

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • undefined
                                        Veti
                                        last edited by 13 Dec 2020, 16:02

                                        most likely yes.

                                        undefined 1 Reply Last reply 14 Dec 2020, 15:57 Reply Quote 0
                                        • undefined
                                          lui2004 @Veti
                                          last edited by 14 Dec 2020, 15:57

                                          @Veti

                                          i have installed the new thermistor but i can print pla with 235°C i dont now why

                                          undefined 1 Reply Last reply 14 Dec 2020, 16:25 Reply Quote 0
                                          119 out of 164
                                          • First post
                                            119/164
                                            Last post
                                          Unless otherwise noted, all forum content is licensed under CC-BY-SA