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    • tekkydaveundefined
      tekkydave
      last edited by

      Only the convenience of having the trigger level adjustment in the Duet rather than the fiddly pots on the pcb.

      ~ tekkydave ~
      D-Bot: 300x300mm | Duet WiFi + Duex2 | 3 independent z motors | X,Y & Z linear rails | E3D Titan Aero + V6 | Precision Piezo z-probe
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      • matt3oundefined
        matt3o
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        Is the 1/3 slowdown something specific of RRF3? I can't say I'm experiencing it on RRF2 but could be wrong

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        • deckingmanundefined
          deckingman @matt3o
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          @matt3o said in Probing speed with analog piezo sensor:

          Is the 1/3 slowdown something specific of RRF3? I can't say I'm experiencing it on RRF2 but could be wrong

          It's been around for an awfully long time - at least 2 years.

          Ian
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          • tekkydaveundefined
            tekkydave
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            I can see the sense in the slowdown for other analog sensors but not for piezos. The analog output is constant until the nozzle makes contact with the bed.
            Can I suggest 2 possible solutions:

            1. A way of specifying the amount of slowdown for analog sensors in M558
            2. A separate M558 probe type for piezo probes with no slowdown applied.

            ~ tekkydave ~
            D-Bot: 300x300mm | Duet WiFi + Duex2 | 3 independent z motors | X,Y & Z linear rails | E3D Titan Aero + V6 | Precision Piezo z-probe
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            • rkrammesundefined
              rkrammes
              last edited by

              I'm guessing there has been no movement on this issue. I just ordered a new universal piezo since I wore out the pots on my older version and I was excited to see that the pots could be avoided. However, if the probe speed is locked with this 1/3 speed modifier it seems like this feature of the new universal piezo is pretty useless. They even mention that this feature is compatible with Duet hardware in the documentation.

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by

                Have you tried increasing the trigger threshold in the G31 command? The slowdown only occurs when the output is close to the threshold.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                • tekkydaveundefined
                  tekkydave @dc42
                  last edited by tekkydave

                  @dc42 I've tried that but it then moves the threshold above what the probe actually generates. Then it doesn't trigger at all and crashes the bed.
                  The analogue piezo probe has no concept of how far away from the bed it is unlike a traditional analogue sensor. I hope it can be catered for at some point but I realise on the scale of current developments it will be low priority.

                  ~ tekkydave ~
                  D-Bot: 300x300mm | Duet WiFi + Duex2 | 3 independent z motors | X,Y & Z linear rails | E3D Titan Aero + V6 | Precision Piezo z-probe
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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators @tekkydave
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                    @tekkydave, it's likely that in a future version of RRF3 I will remove the automatic slowdown and replace it with 2 configurable feedrates in the M558 command: a fast feedrate for initial probing, and a slower feedrate for the second and subsequent probes, for those types of sensor that benefit from slow probing.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                    • tekkydaveundefined
                      tekkydave @dc42
                      last edited by

                      @dc42 That would be a good solution. Cheers 🙂

                      ~ tekkydave ~
                      D-Bot: 300x300mm | Duet WiFi + Duex2 | 3 independent z motors | X,Y & Z linear rails | E3D Titan Aero + V6 | Precision Piezo z-probe
                      FreeCAD, PrusaSlicer

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                      • tekkydaveundefined
                        tekkydave
                        last edited by

                        Is it still planned to make any changes to the M558 command in RRF 3.x?

                        ~ tekkydave ~
                        D-Bot: 300x300mm | Duet WiFi + Duex2 | 3 independent z motors | X,Y & Z linear rails | E3D Titan Aero + V6 | Precision Piezo z-probe
                        FreeCAD, PrusaSlicer

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by

                          I'll move this to the firmware wishlist.

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                          • tekkydaveundefined
                            tekkydave
                            last edited by

                            RRF3.3beta2 has resolved this issue. G30 now probes at full speed due to changes in M558 F parameter.

                            ~ tekkydave ~
                            D-Bot: 300x300mm | Duet WiFi + Duex2 | 3 independent z motors | X,Y & Z linear rails | E3D Titan Aero + V6 | Precision Piezo z-probe
                            FreeCAD, PrusaSlicer

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