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    • matt3oundefined
      matt3o
      last edited by

      Is the 1/3 slowdown something specific of RRF3? I can't say I'm experiencing it on RRF2 but could be wrong

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      • deckingmanundefined
        deckingman @matt3o
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        @matt3o said in Probing speed with analog piezo sensor:

        Is the 1/3 slowdown something specific of RRF3? I can't say I'm experiencing it on RRF2 but could be wrong

        It's been around for an awfully long time - at least 2 years.

        Ian
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        • tekkydaveundefined
          tekkydave
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          I can see the sense in the slowdown for other analog sensors but not for piezos. The analog output is constant until the nozzle makes contact with the bed.
          Can I suggest 2 possible solutions:

          1. A way of specifying the amount of slowdown for analog sensors in M558
          2. A separate M558 probe type for piezo probes with no slowdown applied.

          ~ tekkydave ~
          D-Bot: 300x300mm | Duet WiFi + Duex2 | 3 independent z motors | X,Y & Z linear rails | E3D Titan Aero + V6 | Precision Piezo z-probe
          FreeCAD, PrusaSlicer

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          • rkrammesundefined
            rkrammes
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            I'm guessing there has been no movement on this issue. I just ordered a new universal piezo since I wore out the pots on my older version and I was excited to see that the pots could be avoided. However, if the probe speed is locked with this 1/3 speed modifier it seems like this feature of the new universal piezo is pretty useless. They even mention that this feature is compatible with Duet hardware in the documentation.

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            • dc42undefined
              dc42 administrators
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              Have you tried increasing the trigger threshold in the G31 command? The slowdown only occurs when the output is close to the threshold.

              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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              • tekkydaveundefined
                tekkydave @dc42
                last edited by tekkydave

                @dc42 I've tried that but it then moves the threshold above what the probe actually generates. Then it doesn't trigger at all and crashes the bed.
                The analogue piezo probe has no concept of how far away from the bed it is unlike a traditional analogue sensor. I hope it can be catered for at some point but I realise on the scale of current developments it will be low priority.

                ~ tekkydave ~
                D-Bot: 300x300mm | Duet WiFi + Duex2 | 3 independent z motors | X,Y & Z linear rails | E3D Titan Aero + V6 | Precision Piezo z-probe
                FreeCAD, PrusaSlicer

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators @tekkydave
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                  @tekkydave, it's likely that in a future version of RRF3 I will remove the automatic slowdown and replace it with 2 configurable feedrates in the M558 command: a fast feedrate for initial probing, and a slower feedrate for the second and subsequent probes, for those types of sensor that benefit from slow probing.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                  • tekkydaveundefined
                    tekkydave @dc42
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                    @dc42 That would be a good solution. Cheers 🙂

                    ~ tekkydave ~
                    D-Bot: 300x300mm | Duet WiFi + Duex2 | 3 independent z motors | X,Y & Z linear rails | E3D Titan Aero + V6 | Precision Piezo z-probe
                    FreeCAD, PrusaSlicer

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                    • tekkydaveundefined
                      tekkydave
                      last edited by

                      Is it still planned to make any changes to the M558 command in RRF 3.x?

                      ~ tekkydave ~
                      D-Bot: 300x300mm | Duet WiFi + Duex2 | 3 independent z motors | X,Y & Z linear rails | E3D Titan Aero + V6 | Precision Piezo z-probe
                      FreeCAD, PrusaSlicer

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        I'll move this to the firmware wishlist.

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                        • tekkydaveundefined
                          tekkydave
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                          RRF3.3beta2 has resolved this issue. G30 now probes at full speed due to changes in M558 F parameter.

                          ~ tekkydave ~
                          D-Bot: 300x300mm | Duet WiFi + Duex2 | 3 independent z motors | X,Y & Z linear rails | E3D Titan Aero + V6 | Precision Piezo z-probe
                          FreeCAD, PrusaSlicer

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