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    • T3P3Tonyundefined
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      I just tested a toolboard and Tn->VSSA =~4.36K on both temp inputs

      R21 (2K2 resistor between the thermistor input and VREFMON) is close to the header:

      7b9042a9-8ccf-460d-9316-4419fbf3c942-image.png

      Worth checking if that's been disturbed.

      I have added the "iBOM" from KiCAD which will allow you to see where all the components are: https://github.com/Duet3D/Duet3-Toolboard-1LC/tree/master/ToolBoard_1LC_v1.0

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      • KarlMarklundundefined
        KarlMarklund @T3P3Tony
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        @T3P3Tony Thank you, I will check it

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          @T3P3Tony said in Toolboard temp sensor resistance:

          I have added the "iBOM"

          much ❤

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          • dc42undefined
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            @KarlMarklund said in Toolboard temp sensor resistance:

            If I do M308 S1 it says last error: short-circuit in sensor. I cant find where that short-circuit would be..

            You would also get a short-circuit reading if the 2K2 pullup resistor to VREFMON is not connected. So I suggest you check the connections to that resistor. If that resistor is not connected, that would also explain the very high resistance reading you get.

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            • KarlMarklundundefined
              KarlMarklund @dc42
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              @dc42 Hi again, have had much to do so havent had time to check this yet.
              Checking it now though and get a reading of about 127K, so it will have to be replaced.

              While I am at it, should i replace R32 as well, with the same spec resistor? Looks like it is connected to the ADVREF Monitoring.

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              • dc42undefined
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                last edited by dc42

                Resistors rarely fail, so please examine that resistor (R21) carefully:

                • Is it present?
                • Do both ends look soldered down?
                • Is there a crack in it?
                • What markings does it have on it?

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                • KarlMarklundundefined
                  KarlMarklund @dc42
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                  @dc42 it doesnt look healthy, see picture.
                  Not sure if it should have the same color as the others, or if it is supposed to be black.

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                  • dc42undefined
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                    last edited by dc42

                    It's a 0.1% tolerance resistor instead of the usual 1%, that's why it's a different colour. It's also black on the tool board I just looked at on my desk.

                    Can you try to measure both R21 and R22 with your multimeter? Note, it can be quite difficult to make good multimeter contacts with the ends, I think this is because of the layer of tin oxide on the solder.

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                    • KarlMarklundundefined
                      KarlMarklund @dc42
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                      @dc42 I have scraped a bit to remove any oxidation, but I dont think my multimeter is that accurate (given the result I get for R22).

                      R21 - 128K
                      R22 - 1,88K

                      as ref:
                      R24 - 9,47K
                      R32 - 1,87K
                      R23 - 9,5

                      Would this be a similar resistor to what it should be as a replacement?
                      https://www.digikey.se/product-detail/en/panasonic-electronic-components/ERA-2AEB222X/P2-2KDCCT-ND/1706191

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                      • dc42undefined
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                        @KarlMarklund, your measurements confirm there is a problem with that resistor, and in your photo it looks like there could be a crack at the bottom end of R21.

                        As you have changed the connectors, we are unable to offer a replacement under warranty.
                        The resistor you have linked to looks like a good replacement. Alternatively, you could connect the PT1000 sensor to the other temperature sensor input, unless you are already using that input for something else.

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                        • KarlMarklundundefined
                          KarlMarklund @dc42
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                          @dc42 Understandable. Thank you for your assistance, I have ordered that resistor and will try to replace it.

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