Extruder issues with 3.2-beta 3.2 - Duet 3 MB6HC

MikeGeppert

@Veti The stepper motor is a Stepperonline 17HS08-1004S

I am shooting for about 900mA.

MikeGeppert

@Phaedrux Here ya go (This is the version that has the "U" defined, the "E" is commented out):

G90    
M83   
M550 P"X301" 
M669 K1           

M569 P0.0  S1 R0 D3 F3 B1 H200 V1000
M569 P0.1  S1 R0 D3 F3 B1 H200 V1000
M569 P0.2  S1 R0 D3 F3 B1 H200 V1000
M569 P0.3  S1 R0 D3 F3 B1 H200 V1000
M569 P0.4  S0 R0 D3 F3 B1 H200 V1000
;M569 P20.0 S0 R0 D3 F3 B1 H200 V1000

;M584 X0.0        Y0.1        Z0.2:0.3    E20.0
;M584 X0.0        Y0.1        Z0.2:0.3    E0.4  
M584 X0.0        Y0.1        Z0.2:0.3    U0.4  
;M350 X256        Y256        Z256        E16         I0
;M92  X1280.00    Y1280.00    Z25600.00   E436.54 
;M566 X900.00     Y900.00     Z60.00      E120.00     
;M203 X12000.00   Y12000.00   Z6000.00    E1000.00
M350 X256        Y256        Z256        U16         I0  
M92  X1280.00    Y1280.00    Z25600.00   U436.54 
M566 X900.00     Y900.00     Z50.00      U120.00      
M203 X12000.00   Y12000.00   Z6000.00    U1000.00 

;M201 X5000.00    Y5000.00    Z500.00    E5000.00 
M201 X5000.00    Y5000.00    Z500.00    U5000.00 

M906 X{2000*0.8} 
M906 Y{2000*0.8} 
M906 Z{2000*0.8}
;M906 E{1000*0.9}
M906 U{1000*0.9}

M906 I30 

M84 S30

M208 X0:330 Y0:330  Z-1:330

; M574 Z1 S2 P"!20.io0.in"
M574 Z0 P"nil"

M574 X1 Y1 S3

M915 X Y S3  F0 H200 T1 R0
M915 Z   S20 F0 H200 T1 R0

;M558 P8 F300 R0.4 C"!20.io0.in"
M558 P8 F300 R0.4 C"!io1.in"

G31  P100 X0 Y0 Z-0.180

M557 X0:300 Y0:300 P5:5

M671 X-25:314 Y157:157 S10 

M308 S0 P"temp0"    Y"thermistor" A"Bed"     T100000 B3950 H14
;M308 S1 P"20.temp0" Y"thermistor" A"Hot End" T100000 B4267 ; H-26
M308 S1 P"temp1"    Y"thermistor" A"Hot End" T100000 B4267
M308 S2             Y"mcu-temp"   A"MCU"

M950 H0 C"out0"    T0
;M950 H1 C"20.out0" T1
M950 H1 C"out1"    T1

;M307 H0 R0.293  C615.6 D2.40 S1.00 V24.1
M307 H0 R0.300  C545.2 D2.36 S1.00 V24.1
;M307 H1 R36.204 C15.7  D1.22 S1.00 V24.2
M307 H1 R3.201  C197.5 D5.04 S1.00 V24.2

M140 H0 

M143 H0 S80  X0
M143 H1 S280 X1

;M950 F0 C"20.out2" Q500
;M950 F1 C"20.out1" Q500
M950 F0 C"out7"             Q500
M950 F1 C"out8"             Q500
M950 F2 C"!out4+^out4.tach" Q500

M106 P0 S0 H-1 C"Part Cooling"
M106 P1 S1 H1  C"Hot End"       T50
M106 P2 S2 H-1 C"Case"

M563 P0 S"Hot End" D0 H1 F0:1
G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0
G10 P0 R0 S0     

M451

; Setup NeoPixel
M150 X1 Q3000000 
M150 S2 F0 P128 R255 U000 B000
G4   S1                 
M150 S2 F0 P128 R000 U255 B000
G4   S1                    
M150 S2 F0 P128 R000 U000 B255
G4   S1                         
M150 S1 F1 P128 R255 U255 B000
M150 S1 F0 P128 R000 U000 B255
G4   S1                    
M150 S1 F1 P128 R255 U000 B255 
M150 S1 F0 P128 R255 U255 B000 
G4   S1                         
M150 S1 F1 P128 R000 U255 B255
M150 S1 F0 P128 R255 U000 B255
G4   S1                    
M150 S1 F1 P128 R255 U140 B000 
M150 S1 F0 P128 R000 U255 B255 
G4   S1 
M150 S1 F1 P128 R255 U255 B255  
M150 S1 F0 P128 R255 U140 B000  
G4   S1                     
M150 S2 F0 P128 R255 U255 B255  
G4   S2                         
M150 S2 F0 P128 R000 U255 B000

;M575 P1 S1 B57600

T0

MikeGeppert

@Phaedrux Hmmm the update did not go well. Trying to recover the system now.

MikeGeppert

@dc42 Thanks for the response.

If I do a "G1 E10" I get the same effect.
I actually removed the stepper from the extruder and it is just sitting on the bed now. I am looking at the gear on the motor.
If I set it up as a "U" it turns as expected with "G1 U10".
If I set up as a "E" it vibrates with almost no torque. I can put my finger on the gear and feel almost no torque at all.

Phaedrux

Can you send M98 P"config.g" and post the response?

Your spacing is very odd and I wonder if there is a non-standard character in there causing something to barf.

Could you maybe try a basic config generated by the online config tool just to rule out the config?

https://configtool.reprapfirmware.org/Start

MikeGeppert

@Phaedrux Is this right? I was expecting an rc2 somewhere:
1/5/2021, 10:42:56 PM M115
FIRMWARE_NAME: RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC FIRMWARE_VERSION: 3.2 ELECTRONICS: Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later FIRMWARE_DATE: 2021-01-05

Phaedrux

Yup that is correct. 3.2 RC2 has been replaced by 3.2 final, which you appear to be using.

MikeGeppert

@Phaedrux said in Extruder issues with 3.2-beta 3.2 - Duet 3 MB6HC:

M98 P"config.g"

1/5/2021, 10:44:40 PM M98 P"config.g"

Kind of unexciting? Its got a green background I think that is a good thing?

MikeGeppert

@Phaedrux Great Thanks!
Same issue. "U" works, "E" not so much...

Phaedrux

Hmm.. no, there should be a few messages if everything is good and some errors if it's not. I think something is amiss with your config.

Can you try a basic config generated by the config tool?

MikeGeppert

@Phaedrux Sure - give me like 30 min or so.

MikeGeppert

@MikeGeppert said in Extruder issues with 3.2-beta 3.2 - Duet 3 MB6HC:

@Phaedrux said in Extruder issues with 3.2-beta 3.2 - Duet 3 MB6HC:

M98 P"config.g"

1/5/2021, 10:44:40 PM M98 P"config.g"

Kind of unexciting? Its got a green background I think that is a good thing?

The lights blink like I expect when I run the command. What should give an output?

Phaedrux

If everything executes cleanly you should get something like

M98 PCONFIG.G
HTTP is enabled on port 80
FTP is disabled
TELNET is disabled
Warning: Heater 1 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 893C.

Well, actually, looking at your config it looks like you may not have any of the network commands and your heaters may not be overpowered.

Phaedrux

And for good measure can you post the results of M122 as well when configured as E?

We could also start sending the basic axis setup commands by themselves to see what the firmware thinks is configured and see if it meets expectation.

M201, M203, M566, M584, etc etc

But I think we may get good results from a clean config.

MikeGeppert

@Phaedrux said in Extruder issues with 3.2-beta 3.2 - Duet 3 MB6HC:

Hmm.. no, there should be a few messages if everything is good and some errors if it's not. I think something is amiss with your config.

Can you try a basic config generated by the config tool?

Ok so a generated Config file seems to work.
Hmmm - I will start modifying it slowly to see what broke it.

MikeGeppert

@Phaedrux said in Extruder issues with 3.2-beta 3.2 - Duet 3 MB6HC:

If everything executes cleanly you should get something like
M98 PCONFIG.G
HTTP is enabled on port 80
FTP is disabled
TELNET is disabled
Warning: Heater 1 appears to be over-powered. If left on at full power, its temperature is predicted to reach 893C.
Well, actually, looking at your config it looks like you may not have any of the network commands and your heaters may not be overpowered.

With the generated config file it also does not print anything to the console.

MikeGeppert

@Phaedrux said in Extruder issues with 3.2-beta 3.2 - Duet 3 MB6HC:

And for good measure can you post the results of M122 as well when configured as E?

We could also start sending the basic axis setup commands by themselves to see what the firmware thinks is configured and see if it meets expectation.

M201, M203, M566, M584, etc etc

But I think we may get good results from a clean config.

1/5/2021, 11:17:48 PM M122
=== Diagnostics ===
RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.2 running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (SBC mode)
Board ID: 08DJM-956BA-NA3TJ-6JKDJ-3S86P-1T9LT
Used output buffers: 1 of 40 (10 max)
=== RTOS ===
Static ram: 149788
Dynamic ram: 62828 of which 36 recycled
Never used RAM 146180, free system stack 192 words
Tasks: Linux(ready,102) HEAT(blocked,297) CanReceiv(blocked,927) CanSender(blocked,371) CanClock(blocked,352) TMC(blocked,19) MAIN(running,1179) IDLE(ready,19)
Owned mutexes: HTTP(MAIN)
=== Platform ===
Last reset 00:00:49 ago, cause: software
Last software reset at 2021-01-05 23:16, reason: User, none spinning, available RAM 146252, slot 2
Software reset code 0x0012 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0044a000 BFAR 0x00000000 SP 0x00000000 Task Linu Freestk 0 n/a
Error status: 0x00
Aux0 errors 0,0,0
Aux1 errors 0,0,0
MCU temperature: min 33.9, current 34.3, max 34.4
Supply voltage: min 24.2, current 24.3, max 24.3, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.1, max 12.2, under voltage events: 0
Driver 0: position 0, standstill, reads 13340, writes 20 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
Driver 1: position 0, standstill, reads 13341, writes 20 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
Driver 2: position 0, standstill, reads 13341, writes 20 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
Driver 3: position 0, standstill, reads 13342, writes 19 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
Driver 4: position 0, standstill, reads 13341, writes 20 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/41
Driver 5: position 0, standstill, reads 13350, writes 11 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0
Date/time: 2021-01-05 23:17:48
Slowest loop: 0.44ms; fastest: 0.05ms
=== Storage ===
Free file entries: 10
SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
=== Move ===
DMs created 125, maxWait 18449ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
=== MainDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 1, completed moves 1, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 1], CDDA state -1
=== AuxDDARing ===
Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
=== Heat ===
Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
Heater 1 is on, I-accum = 0.0
=== GCodes ===
Segments left: 0
Movement lock held by null
HTTP* is doing "M122" in state(s) 0
Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
File is idle in state(s) 0
USB is idle in state(s) 0
Aux is idle in state(s) 0
Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
Queue is idle in state(s) 0
LCD is idle in state(s) 0
SBC is idle in state(s) 0
Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
Code queue is empty.
=== CAN ===
Messages queued 188, send timeouts 433, received 0, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, free buffers 48
=== SBC interface ===
State: 4, failed transfers: 0
Last transfer: 1ms ago
RX/TX seq numbers: 1696/1696
SPI underruns 0, overruns 0
Number of disconnects: 0, IAP RAM available 0x2c8a8
Buffer RX/TX: 0/0-0
=== Duet Control Server ===
Duet Control Server v3.2.0
Code buffer space: 4096
Configured SPI speed: 8000000 Hz
Full transfers per second: 35.40
Maximum length of RX/TX data transfers: 4788/860

Phaedrux

@MikeGeppert said in Extruder issues with 3.2-beta 3.2 - Duet 3 MB6HC:

With the generated config file it also does not print anything to the console.

That may be normal. In SBC mode there aren't any network commands present to echo back, and your heaters may not be over powered so no warning.

Can you post the generated config?

Phaedrux

@MikeGeppert said in Extruder issues with 3.2-beta 3.2 - Duet 3 MB6HC:

M906 X{20000.8} M906 Y{20000.8} M906 Z{20000.8} ;M906 E{10000.9} M906 U{1000*0.9}

If you're trying to get percentages with this, just use M913 instead. I set my current to the rated max with M906 and then use M913 to set it to a percentage of that.

MikeGeppert

@Phaedrux said in Extruder issues with 3.2-beta 3.2 - Duet 3 MB6HC:

@MikeGeppert said in Extruder issues with 3.2-beta 3.2 - Duet 3 MB6HC:

M906 X{20000.8} M906 Y{20000.8} M906 Z{20000.8} ;M906 E{10000.9} M906 U{1000*0.9}

If you're trying to get percentages with this, just use M913 instead. I set my current to the rated max with M906 and then use M913 to set it to a percentage of that.

I found the culprit:
M906 E900 ; Works
and
M906 E{1000*0.9} ; Gives the issue.

Interesting that these seem to work:
M906 X{20000.8}
M906 Y{20000.8}
M906 Z{2000*0.8}