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    • garyd9undefined
      garyd9 @tenaja
      last edited by garyd9

      @tenaja

      Some more context might be useful. For example, I'm taking a guess that you're referring to M906 as the "idle current command", but I'm not entirely sure.

      If you ARE referring to M906, please note the footnote to the "I" ("eye", not "el") parameter. I've added emphasis to the part that seems to relate to your query:

      This is the percentage of normal that the motor currents should be reduced to when the printer becomes idle but the motors have not been switched off. The default value is 30% and will always be at least 100mA - starting from RRF 2.02 setting it to 0 will disable the steppers after timeout like M18|M84 do and if an axis is related to the motor, throw out the "homing" of it, since it is likely that the position cannot be precisely determined anymore. Note that the idle current is applied globally for all motors and cannot be set per axis.

      Source: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M906_Set_motor_currents

      "I'm not saying that you are wrong - I'm just trying to fit it into my real world simulated experience."

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt
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        As I recall you can turn individual stepper drivers off with M84.

        Frederick

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • tenajaundefined
          tenaja @garyd9
          last edited by

          @garyd9 , Yes, that is what I meant. This is not an axis that is "homed"--it is rotary, which needs to freewheel at times. So, how do I do that? I'm getting a "axis not homed" error or something like that.

          Should I just issue a G92 to set it to zero right before I turn it back on?

          Thanks again!

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          • tenajaundefined
            tenaja @fcwilt
            last edited by tenaja

            @fcwilt said in Set current to zero?:

            turn individual stepper drivers off with M84

            That did it, now I need to figure out how to "home" an axis that is not homed, and can not be homed.

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            • Vetiundefined
              Veti @tenaja
              last edited by

              @tenaja said in Set current to zero?:

              That did it, now I need to figure out how to "home" an axis that is not homed, and can not be homed.

              use G92 to set a position

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_G92_Set_Position

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              • tenajaundefined
                tenaja @Veti
                last edited by tenaja

                @Veti said in Set current to zero?:

                G92

                I did that, from the command line (top of DWC web page), and it did not work.

                Perhaps G92 after a M913?
                coming back after Duet restart (because it always loses connection)

                Yes!

                M913 Y100 does not turn power back on... It's still freewheeling after that....but the commands do work. (M913 then G92)

                Thanks, I'm back in business!

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                • Vetiundefined
                  Veti @tenaja
                  last edited by

                  @tenaja said in Set current to zero?:

                  I did that, from the command line (top of DWC web page), and it did not work.

                  whats the exact G92 command you issued?

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                  • tenajaundefined
                    tenaja @tenaja
                    last edited by

                    I guess the only question left is how you cancel an M84 (Stop Idle Hold), without issuing a move command? Or to put it another way, how do you Resume Idle Hold?

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                    • tenajaundefined
                      tenaja @Veti
                      last edited by

                      @Veti said in Set current to zero?:

                      @tenaja said in Set current to zero?:

                      I did that, from the command line (top of DWC web page), and it did not work.

                      whats the exact G92 command you issued?

                      G92 Y0

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @tenaja
                        last edited by

                        @tenaja said in Set current to zero?:

                        I guess the only question left is how you cancel an M84 (Stop Idle Hold), without issuing a move command? Or to put it another way, how do you Resume Idle Hold?

                        What is the letter assigned to this axis and what G92 command did you issue?

                        Issuing a G1 command for that axis should turn the driver back on - is there some reason you cannot do that?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • Vetiundefined
                          Veti
                          last edited by

                          I just tested it and the axis became homed

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                          • tenajaundefined
                            tenaja @Veti
                            last edited by tenaja

                            @Veti
                            Thanks, as I pointed out in Post #8, it does work if you put it in the gcode. But you have to do it in sequence, with the M913 first.

                            And, the motor does not have power, even though you issued an M913 Y100. ("Set motor percentage of normal current", to 100%)

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                            • Vetiundefined
                              Veti @tenaja
                              last edited by

                              @tenaja

                              try a small movement G0 Y0.1 followed by G0 Y0

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                              • tenajaundefined
                                tenaja @Veti
                                last edited by

                                @Veti said in Set current to zero?:

                                @tenaja

                                try a small movement G0 Y0.1 followed by G0 Y0

                                As expected, that will do it. It seems odd there's a way to power-down a motor, but not a "safe" way to power it back up. ("Safe" = no-motion).

                                I would like to know how to restore it safely, for trivial/future reasons, but for my current application, my needs are met.

                                I really appreciate all of the help provided.

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @tenaja
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                                  @tenaja said in Set current to zero?:

                                  M913 Y100 does not turn power back on... It's still freewheeling after that....but the commands do work. (M913 then G92)

                                  Any movement command will turn it back on. RRF 3.3 (for which we will soon release a beta) also supports M17 to turn on motor current.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • oozeBotundefined
                                    oozeBot @dc42
                                    last edited by

                                    @dc42 said in Set current to zero?:

                                    Any movement command will turn it back on. RRF 3.3 (for which we will soon release a beta) also supports M17 to turn on motor current.

                                    I'm very interested in testing this as I believe it will really help when releasing the stepper brake on our z-axis.. currently, we have to slightly move the z-axis to energize the steppers to keep the gantry from dropping.

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                                    • tenajaundefined
                                      tenaja @dc42
                                      last edited by

                                      @dc42 said in Set current to zero?:

                                      @tenaja said in Set current to zero?:

                                      M913 Y100 does not turn power back on... It's still freewheeling after that....but the commands do work. (M913 then G92)

                                      Any movement command will turn it back on. RRF 3.3 (for which we will soon release a beta) also supports M17 to turn on motor current.

                                      Thanks...

                                      Will a "relative" move of zero, like G1 Y0 do it? Or is physical motion the only way to get power back on?

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        If you work out your step resolution you could have a move of exactly a single motor step.

                                        Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators @oozeBot
                                          last edited by

                                          @oozeBot said in Set current to zero?:

                                          @dc42 said in Set current to zero?:

                                          Any movement command will turn it back on. RRF 3.3 (for which we will soon release a beta) also supports M17 to turn on motor current.

                                          I'm very interested in testing this as I believe it will really help when releasing the stepper brake on our z-axis.. currently, we have to slightly move the z-axis to energize the steppers to keep the gantry from dropping.

                                          I expect to provide an unofficial 3.3beta tomorrow.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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