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    • Luke'sLaboratoryundefined
      Luke'sLaboratory @jrockland
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      @jrockland said in IMPORTANT ISSUE with bed temp controller:

      SRD-05VDC-SL-C

      Oh - so its a mechanical switch you were trying to drive with PWM. Well, that about "solves" it, other than inverting the heater signal. Datasheet shows ratings for 300 electrical switches/min, with only 30 mechanical switches/min allowed.

      FWIW - this is why we always ask for the config.g when diagnosing issues.

      Luke
      http://lukeslab.online

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      • Vetiundefined
        Veti
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        as i said not having a quality ssr gives you a good chance of burning down your house

        get some quality components like
        Omron G3NA-210B-DC5 (10A) or Crydom D2425 (25A) or Crydom 84134000 (10A) SSR

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        • jrocklandundefined
          jrockland @Luke'sLaboratory
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          @Luke-sLaboratory driving relays with io's isn't the right way ? pretty sure it is what there telling us to do in the wiring diagram.. I might be wrong..

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti @jrockland
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            @jrockland said in IMPORTANT ISSUE with bed temp controller:

            pretty sure it is what there telling us to do in the wiring diagram.. I might be wrong..

            what wiring diagram?

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            • Luke'sLaboratoryundefined
              Luke'sLaboratory @jrockland
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              @jrockland IOs are fine, but you're trying to use a PWM signal (based on PID values) instead of a simple off/on. the mechanical relay can't keep up, and it may cause some other issues like latching on and causing the issue described. You'll need to re-enable Bang-bang, which will output either full voltage or none.

              Luke
              http://lukeslab.online

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              • jrocklandundefined
                jrockland @Veti
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                @Veti O don't worry for me, theses machines are intended to crash so they have fire extinguishing system in place. and I don't run them in my house.

                ever seen an axis with over 60lbs of torque crash ? parts goes flying XD

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                • jrocklandundefined
                  jrockland @Luke'sLaboratory
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                  @Luke-sLaboratory That would explain why it was working before the update, bang bang was probably activated before...

                  I will try to find how to write it properly using bang bang.

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @jrockland
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                    • jrocklandundefined
                      jrockland @Luke'sLaboratory
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                      @Luke-sLaboratory hmm wait if I look at my config file bang bang IS activated..

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                      • jrocklandundefined
                        jrockland
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                        @fcwilt you where right (before deleting your comment) but my config was set as using bang bang..

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @jrockland
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                          @jrockland said in IMPORTANT ISSUE with bed temp controller:

                          @Luke-sLaboratory hmm wait if I look at my config file bang bang IS activated..

                          Even with the slow rate of "bang bank" a mechanical relay is not a good choice.

                          Frederick

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @jrockland
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                            @jrockland said in IMPORTANT ISSUE with bed temp controller:

                            @fcwilt you where right (before deleting your comment) but my config was set as using bang bang..

                            I saw that someone had already mentioned that issue so I tried to delete mine.

                            Frederick

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                            • jrocklandundefined
                              jrockland @fcwilt
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                              @fcwilt true, probably why they where changed on the other machines

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                              • jrocklandundefined
                                jrockland
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                                Good news tho, the 3/4 inch aluminum bed survived (still straight). the only thing that died is the embedded magnets (n52).. Ill get those replaced then work on the gcode once the board is back.

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                                • jrocklandundefined
                                  jrockland
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                                  reprap is getting better and better, and those 6hg/3hc boards are really solid. we blown multiple motors and heaters core (I remember something crashed IN the board hard enough that the thin metal door bended and shorted the board) and it still running strong.

                                  I tried to delete the post as it look like bang bang was deactivated, so not a firmware issue. anyway probably my bad when I wrote the gcode.

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