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    • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
      DIY-O-Sphere @Phaedrux
      last edited by

      @Phaedrux
      Sorry . Only read "Open config-override.g and check...."
      Getting to late here....

      (UTC+1)

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      • jcv1977undefined
        jcv1977 @Phaedrux
        last edited by jcv1977

        @Phaedrux Thanks Guys for the reply! I got it like that, apparently 8mm (i don't have my caliper with me, but it's close. I would swear that it is some parameter issue but i i am not that gcode savy myself. I am probing at the center with printing temperature. Every time i tried to get one this is what it says:

        G29
        Warning: the height map has a substantial Z offset. Suggest use Z-probe to establish Z=0 datum, then re-probe the mesh.
        88 points probed, min error 0.240, max error 1.130, mean 0.766, deviation 0.229
        Height map saved to file 0:/sys/heightmap.csv
        

        and this is the results dumped on height map.csv:

        RepRapFirmware height map file v2 generated at 2021-01-19 17:27, min error 0.240, max error 1.130, mean 0.766, deviation 0.229
        xmin,xmax,ymin,ymax,radius,xspacing,yspacing,xnum,ynum
        47.00,205.00,20.00,230.00,-1.00,20.00,20.00,8,11
          0.240,  0.303,  0.428,  0.543,  0.683,  0.800,  0.885,  0.960
          0.275,  0.352,  0.460,  0.590,  0.692,  0.793,  0.900,  0.945
          0.300,  0.380,  0.502,  0.618,  0.717,  0.832,  0.915,  0.975
          0.365,  0.440,  0.562,  0.675,  0.780,  0.908,  0.977,  1.038
          0.415,  0.517,  0.615,  0.717,  0.808,  0.915,  1.008,  1.055
          0.488,  0.570,  0.655,  0.733,  0.855,  0.952,  1.062,  1.087
          0.500,  0.582,  0.685,  0.772,  0.827,  0.940,  1.020,  1.087
          0.545,  0.605,  0.697,  0.827,  0.873,  0.955,  1.050,  1.105
          0.600,  0.660,  0.728,  0.825,  0.875,  0.960,  1.043,  1.090
          0.610,  0.695,  0.788,  0.858,  0.918,  0.977,  1.065,  1.092
          0.673,  0.750,  0.798,  0.900,  0.945,  1.013,  1.082,  1.130
        
        
        
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        • jcv1977undefined
          jcv1977
          last edited by

          I just tried a print test but i have to cancel it because the nozzle is still scratching the bed. Also i 've got a doubt ( one more lol) should i pre level the bed manually before even do the auto level? Does it helps?

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          • Vetiundefined
            Veti @jcv1977
            last edited by

            post a picture of the heigh map.

            its hard to see it in numbers.

            but yes, you should level the bed as best as you can.

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            • jcv1977undefined
              jcv1977 @Veti
              last edited by

              @Veti I am using Reprap 3 and i don’t see any function to show a geaphic of the heightmap do you know where it is?

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              • Vetiundefined
                Veti
                last edited by

                general->plugins->height map

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                • jcv1977undefined
                  jcv1977
                  last edited by jcv1977

                  Hmmm i think i am going to rely it but this is what i got

                  ![alt text](Screen Shot 2021-01-20 at 1.11.43 PM.png image url)

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Maybe take a look here. Get the bed as level as possible first. Then run the mesh.

                    Also, redo your Z probe trigger height measurement. If the probe body is 8mm above the nozzle the trigger height should be around 2mm, not around 0mm.

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                    • jcv1977undefined
                      jcv1977 @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @Phaedrux Seems ok but i don't think its 8mm between the bltouch/nozzle and the bed.

                      IMG_2482.jpg

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
                        last edited by

                        After the bed is leveled well, follow these steps.

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe#Section_Calibrate_the_Z_probe_trigger_height

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                        • jcv1977undefined
                          jcv1977
                          last edited by

                          @Phaedrux said in Ender 3 Pro BL Touch Trigger Height:

                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Test_and_calibrate_the_Z_probe#Section_Calibrate_the_Z_probe_trigger_height

                          I've already done it but then when i home z it is way upper than the picture. The best way to describe it it would be imagine the same picture but with the bltouch deployed so the nozzle would be even far from the bed.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator
                            last edited by

                            @jcv1977 said in Ender 3 Pro BL Touch Trigger Height:

                            G1 X50 Y20 F6000 ; go to first probe point G30 ; home Z by probing the bed

                            In your homez and homeall you're using the corner of the bed to probe. Change that to place the probe at the center of the bed.

                            Also use that position to measure your trigger height.

                            If there is tilt in the bed when you do this the the trigger height won't be right either, so make sure the bed is leveled. The guide linked shows it being done with both the hotend and bed at temp to allow for thermal changes. Also make sure that the mesh isn't loaded when doing the leveling.

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                            • jcv1977undefined
                              jcv1977
                              last edited by

                              I 've had it with this, it keeps happening the same all over again. I guess there is something wrong with the bltouch. I have done a manual level of the freaking bed that i thing it would be perfect. Then i follow the guide again and the result is that the homing of the z axis is in the middle of the bed but the damn nozzle is really way too up to even try an auto level .

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Are we sure your z axis steps per mm is correct? Does moving 10mm in Z actually move 10mm?

                                Video of the process so we can maybe see something we're missing? Sometimes it's the little things that get overlooked, or a misunderstanding that becomes easy to clear up when we can see what's happening.

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                                • jcv1977undefined
                                  jcv1977 @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by

                                  @Phaedrux I 've been asking the same question for a couple of days now, today i will get a caliper and i will be able to measure it correctly.

                                  Sometimes it's the little things that get overlooked
                                  

                                  Amen to that!!!!

                                  I'll make a video of it.

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                                  • jcv1977undefined
                                    jcv1977
                                    last edited by

                                    Well trying again to set the bltouch right. I did some modification to the bed, i 've replaced the springs for m3 spacers so the bed is really steady also there where a severe difference between the spacers been used in the bed gantry i don't know how did that machine pass the "quality test" but now the bed has little margin of error

                                    BUT yep there is always that frightening word, the freaking compensation is not working when i run the bed compensation i get this on some mesh parts:

                                    1/31/2021, 10:11:05 AM	Warning: Skipping grid point (47.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (67.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (87.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (107.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (127.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (147.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (167.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (187.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    70 points probed, min error -0.034, max error 0.477, mean 0.251, deviation 0.152
                                    Height map saved to file 0:/sys/heightmap.csv
                                    1/31/2021, 10:11:04 AM	Warning: Skipping grid point (47.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (67.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (87.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (107.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (127.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (147.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (167.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (187.0, 220.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    70 points probed, min error -0.034, max error 0.477, mean 0.251, deviation 0.152
                                    Height map saved to file 0:/sys/heightmap.csv
                                    1/31/2021, 10:10:45 AM	Warning: Skipping grid point (187.0, 180.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (187.0, 200.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    1/31/2021, 10:10:05 AM	Warning: Skipping grid point (187.0, 140.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (187.0, 160.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    1/31/2021, 10:09:26 AM	Warning: Skipping grid point (187.0, 100.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    Warning: Skipping grid point (187.0, 120.0) because Z probe cannot reach it
                                    

                                    The thing is that all of that coordinates can indeed be reached by the prove i've seen all the measurement itself and i can tell you that non of that coordinates are unreachable. So there might be something else wrong.

                                    this is my actual G31 part:

                                    G31 P500 X-46 Y6 Z3.34   ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                                    

                                    If a run a test print the print is ok but i don't want to try a really big print if i am not sure that the bltouch is working the way it should.

                                    Any ideas?

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                                    • Vetiundefined
                                      Veti
                                      last edited by Veti

                                      when defining the grid you have to take the offset of the probe into consideration.

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                                      • jcv1977undefined
                                        jcv1977 @Veti
                                        last edited by

                                        @Veti But when i defined the grid i used the probe as point of reference thats why in reality all that coordinates are indeed reachable.

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                                        • Vetiundefined
                                          Veti
                                          last edited by

                                          post the output of

                                          M208
                                          and
                                          G31

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                                          • jcv1977undefined
                                            jcv1977
                                            last edited by

                                            M208

                                            1/31/2021, 11:22:02 AM	M208
                                            Axis limits X0.0:230.0, Y0.0:210.0, Z0.0:200.0
                                            

                                            G31

                                            1/31/2021, 11:23:07 AM	G31
                                            Z probe 0: current reading 0, threshold 500, trigger height 3.340, offsets X-46.0 Y6.0
                                            
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