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    Alpenprinter
    last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 18:20

    I did not manage to install the CNC Webcontrol. The duetwebcontrol_sd.zip can be uploaded under „system“, the files are unzipped, but then nothing happens.
    What is my mistake?

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      Sindarius
      last edited by Sindarius 20 Jan 2021, 18:31

      @Alpenprinter

      Do you have your machine configured for CNC?

      There should be an M453 somewhere in your config to enable CNC mode.

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        weed2all @Alpenprinter
        last edited by weed2all 20 Jan 2021, 19:38

        @Alpenprinter you need to put M453 to activate cnc mode and with that the dwc for cnc will appear!!

        https://www.thingiverse.com/weed2all/designs

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          Alpenprinter
          last edited by 20 Jan 2021, 20:29

          @Sindarius said in Preview version of CNC optimized DWC.:

          M453

          You are the best! Looking great!

          Could s.o. please post the config.g and the homing files, for a e axis mill, so I have a starting point for configuration?

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            neilo
            last edited by 24 Jan 2021, 09:19

            Hi All, hope you're well. I'm getting my head into this and have a couple of [newbie] questions:

            1. I'm setting up a z-probe but there is no z probe value on display - should I do the the calibration on the classic DWC then switch over to CNC? Same applies for endstop switches I guess.
            2. The set work Xyz button: does that link to a macro or does is just trigger a G92 command?
              Really think this is a great project!
              Thanks,
              Neil
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              Sindarius @neilo
              last edited by Sindarius 24 Jan 2021, 11:46

              @neilo said in Preview version of CNC optimized DWC.:

              Hi All, hope you're well. I'm getting my head into this and have a couple of [newbie] questions:

              1. I'm setting up a z-probe but there is no z probe value on display - should I do the the calibration on the classic DWC then switch over to CNC? Same applies for endstop switches I guess.

              Those are items that will be addressed in a future version of the DWC-CNC ui.

              1. The set work Xyz button: does that link to a macro or does is just trigger a G92 command?

              It is issuing a G10 L20 command to set the WCS.

              My understanding and someone please correct me if I am wrong G92 changes all of the WCS so I avoided it in this case.

              Really think this is a great project!
              Thanks,
              Neil

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                dc42 administrators
                last edited by 24 Jan 2021, 13:15

                G92 does not affect WCS offsets.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                  neilo
                  last edited by 24 Jan 2021, 17:40

                  Awesome thanks both!

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                    cjm
                    last edited by cjm 31 Jan 2021, 23:31

                    I’ve been using the preview version for a few jobs and find it a big improvement on the standard DWC for CNC. A couple of thoughts from this experience are:

                    The X and Y are displayed to 1 decimal place. For me it would be useful to be able to see 2 decimal places, perhaps selectable as a machine specific option, or maybe just on the DRO plug-in screen?

                    In the jog plug-in screen, buttons to set X,Y and Z to zero in the current work coordinate system would be very useful (as has been mentioned by others).

                    However, perhaps a better option might be to provide access to macro buttons on the right hand side of either the jog screen or DRO screen and then we can define our own macros to set XY, do Z-probing etc.?

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                      Sindarius @cjm
                      last edited by 1 Feb 2021, 13:16

                      @cjm Thank you for the feedback. As mentioned some of these items are on my todo list. The extra decimal places make sense to me as well. I will play with the jog control a bit more. Probably switch the home buttons out and put in a home machine and go to zero set of buttons.

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                        Adamfilip
                        last edited by 1 Feb 2021, 15:20

                        Great Job!

                        My suggestions:
                        JOG - Add incremental or Continuous movement
                        JOG - Right click on buttons to adjust movement amounts

                        DRO - Increase frequency of updates and Increase to 2 decimal places
                        DRO - show conversion under smaller each in inches 0.001"

                        DRO.jpg

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                          Sindarius @Adamfilip
                          last edited by 1 Feb 2021, 16:01

                          @Adamfilip Thanks for the feedback.

                          I need to look further into continuous movement. I tried some experiments with it and the problem that I ran into is that it tends to overshoot because the gcode commands are queued. The other jog control plugin that I wrote for gamepads has a similar issue.

                          As far as frequency that is driven by the DWC getting updates from the Duet. Under machine specific you can adjust the frequency of updates (Default is 250ms). Lowering that number will increase the number of updates which will cause the UI to refresh quicker.

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                            wilriker @Sindarius
                            last edited by 1 Feb 2021, 18:53

                            @Sindarius said in Preview version of CNC optimized DWC.:

                            I need to look further into continuous movement. I tried some experiments with it and the problem that I ran into is that it tends to overshoot because the gcode commands are queued. The other jog control plugin that I wrote for gamepads has a similar issue.

                            An idea that just came to my mind: how about a user-switch to select between incremental and continuous movement and the latter will accumulate all jog commands until the user stops sending movement commands for e.g. 1s (possibly configurable). While this time show a small indicator on where the journey will end and only send the movement once this "presetting" is done?

                            Not sure if it's a good idea to do it like that. But I wanted to toss it into the ring.

                            Manuel
                            Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                            with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                            My Tool Collection

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                              Sindarius @wilriker
                              last edited by 1 Feb 2021, 18:59

                              @wilriker I do something similar to what mention with my gamepad jogging plugin. When you first hold down a control on the game pad the first few moves stutter a little before moving at a smooth pace.

                              The CNC control I have personally used the most uses a USB connection so it doesn't have to worry about packet travel.

                              It's worth playing with it some more, I do understand the desire for continuous jogging especially on larger machines.

                              https://github.com/Sindarius/DWC_GamepadJogger_Plugin

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                                AverageUser
                                last edited by AverageUser 2 Feb 2021, 10:25 2 Feb 2021, 09:51

                                Hi guys, I'm not really into this whole github thing. I think you are doing AN AMAZING work here. But I have no idea how i can run DWC-CNC on my Duet2wifi... can somebody give an idiot(me^^) a hint?!

                                (I uploaded the files of the release: Duet Release.png
                                into my www-folder of the SD Card.. But my interface still looks like the 3D-printer interface:
                                Duet Interface.png

                                I also added M453 into the config file:
                                duet config.png

                                can it be that my firmware is too old?
                                Duet Firmware.png

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                                  chrishamm administrators @AverageUser
                                  last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 10:36

                                  @AverageUser Perhaps it's still cached. Try pressing Ctrl+Shift+R to reload DWC.

                                  Duet software engineer

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                                    AverageUser @chrishamm
                                    last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 10:42

                                    @chrishamm already tried: did not change.

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                                      chrishamm administrators @AverageUser
                                      last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 10:51

                                      @AverageUser You can upload the DWC-SD ZIP file on the System page too. Does that work?

                                      Duet software engineer

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                                        AverageUser @chrishamm
                                        last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 11:20

                                        @chrishamm And what do I do with the files inside the www-folder then? Erase them?

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                                          chrishamm administrators @AverageUser
                                          last edited by 2 Feb 2021, 11:23

                                          @AverageUser Under normal circumstances you don't need to worry about extra files, they don't take up much space. When you upload the ZIP bundle on the System Files page, the existing files in /www are automatically overwritten.

                                          Duet software engineer

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