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    • tooundefined
      too
      last edited by

      Hey @Sindarius, great work!
      We have been looking for a way to clean up the interface for our concrete printers for a while now!

      However, we still have an extruder axis that we need to control, do you think it will be possible to activate the CNC DWC with the nice work coordinate system handler and the big DRO also in FFF mode? (Or also show E axes in the jog button overview?)

      Thanks a lot!

      Cartesian Duet3+Raspberry pi 4 with 5x 1XD using servo drives printing mortars and concrete

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      • Sindariusundefined
        Sindarius @too
        last edited by

        @too the problem is that the cnc specific pages have had things like the extruder removed since they aren’t needed in cnc applications. It would likely come down to making a plugin that can bring both worlds together in a custom dashboard.

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        • tooundefined
          too @Sindarius
          last edited by

          @Sindarius Hmm.. I don't know about the inner workings of the DWC, but couldn't it be an option in settings to "show E axis control interface"?
          Or would @dc42 have to ass something like this through the firmware?

          Cartesian Duet3+Raspberry pi 4 with 5x 1XD using servo drives printing mortars and concrete

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          • Sindariusundefined
            Sindarius @too
            last edited by

            @too Axes buttons on the dashboard are driven by the Object Model under Move > Axes. Extruders are in their own area in the Object Model. At some point I could look at bringing in extruders as E# axes but that would not be a focus for me at this moment.

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            • Alpenprinterundefined
              Alpenprinter
              last edited by

              I did not manage to install the CNC Webcontrol. The duetwebcontrol_sd.zip can be uploaded under „system“, the files are unzipped, but then nothing happens.
              What is my mistake?

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              • Sindariusundefined
                Sindarius
                last edited by Sindarius

                @Alpenprinter

                Do you have your machine configured for CNC?

                There should be an M453 somewhere in your config to enable CNC mode.

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                • weed2allundefined
                  weed2all @Alpenprinter
                  last edited by weed2all

                  @Alpenprinter you need to put M453 to activate cnc mode and with that the dwc for cnc will appear!!

                  https://www.thingiverse.com/weed2all/designs

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                  • Alpenprinterundefined
                    Alpenprinter
                    last edited by

                    @Sindarius said in Preview version of CNC optimized DWC.:

                    M453

                    You are the best! Looking great!

                    Could s.o. please post the config.g and the homing files, for a e axis mill, so I have a starting point for configuration?

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                    • neiloundefined
                      neilo
                      last edited by

                      Hi All, hope you're well. I'm getting my head into this and have a couple of [newbie] questions:

                      1. I'm setting up a z-probe but there is no z probe value on display - should I do the the calibration on the classic DWC then switch over to CNC? Same applies for endstop switches I guess.
                      2. The set work Xyz button: does that link to a macro or does is just trigger a G92 command?
                        Really think this is a great project!
                        Thanks,
                        Neil
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                      • Sindariusundefined
                        Sindarius @neilo
                        last edited by Sindarius

                        @neilo said in Preview version of CNC optimized DWC.:

                        Hi All, hope you're well. I'm getting my head into this and have a couple of [newbie] questions:

                        1. I'm setting up a z-probe but there is no z probe value on display - should I do the the calibration on the classic DWC then switch over to CNC? Same applies for endstop switches I guess.

                        Those are items that will be addressed in a future version of the DWC-CNC ui.

                        1. The set work Xyz button: does that link to a macro or does is just trigger a G92 command?

                        It is issuing a G10 L20 command to set the WCS.

                        My understanding and someone please correct me if I am wrong G92 changes all of the WCS so I avoided it in this case.

                        Really think this is a great project!
                        Thanks,
                        Neil

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by

                          G92 does not affect WCS offsets.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • neiloundefined
                            neilo
                            last edited by

                            Awesome thanks both!

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                            • cjmundefined
                              cjm
                              last edited by cjm

                              I’ve been using the preview version for a few jobs and find it a big improvement on the standard DWC for CNC. A couple of thoughts from this experience are:

                              The X and Y are displayed to 1 decimal place. For me it would be useful to be able to see 2 decimal places, perhaps selectable as a machine specific option, or maybe just on the DRO plug-in screen?

                              In the jog plug-in screen, buttons to set X,Y and Z to zero in the current work coordinate system would be very useful (as has been mentioned by others).

                              However, perhaps a better option might be to provide access to macro buttons on the right hand side of either the jog screen or DRO screen and then we can define our own macros to set XY, do Z-probing etc.?

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                              • Sindariusundefined
                                Sindarius @cjm
                                last edited by

                                @cjm Thank you for the feedback. As mentioned some of these items are on my todo list. The extra decimal places make sense to me as well. I will play with the jog control a bit more. Probably switch the home buttons out and put in a home machine and go to zero set of buttons.

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                                • Adamfilipundefined
                                  Adamfilip
                                  last edited by

                                  Great Job!

                                  My suggestions:
                                  JOG - Add incremental or Continuous movement
                                  JOG - Right click on buttons to adjust movement amounts

                                  DRO - Increase frequency of updates and Increase to 2 decimal places
                                  DRO - show conversion under smaller each in inches 0.001"

                                  DRO.jpg

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                                  • Sindariusundefined
                                    Sindarius @Adamfilip
                                    last edited by

                                    @Adamfilip Thanks for the feedback.

                                    I need to look further into continuous movement. I tried some experiments with it and the problem that I ran into is that it tends to overshoot because the gcode commands are queued. The other jog control plugin that I wrote for gamepads has a similar issue.

                                    As far as frequency that is driven by the DWC getting updates from the Duet. Under machine specific you can adjust the frequency of updates (Default is 250ms). Lowering that number will increase the number of updates which will cause the UI to refresh quicker.

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                                    • wilrikerundefined
                                      wilriker @Sindarius
                                      last edited by

                                      @Sindarius said in Preview version of CNC optimized DWC.:

                                      I need to look further into continuous movement. I tried some experiments with it and the problem that I ran into is that it tends to overshoot because the gcode commands are queued. The other jog control plugin that I wrote for gamepads has a similar issue.

                                      An idea that just came to my mind: how about a user-switch to select between incremental and continuous movement and the latter will accumulate all jog commands until the user stops sending movement commands for e.g. 1s (possibly configurable). While this time show a small indicator on where the journey will end and only send the movement once this "presetting" is done?

                                      Not sure if it's a good idea to do it like that. But I wanted to toss it into the ring.

                                      Manuel
                                      Duet 3 6HC (v0.6) with RPi 4B on a custom Cartesian
                                      with probably always latest firmware/DWC (incl. betas or self-compiled)
                                      My Tool Collection

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                                      • Sindariusundefined
                                        Sindarius @wilriker
                                        last edited by

                                        @wilriker I do something similar to what mention with my gamepad jogging plugin. When you first hold down a control on the game pad the first few moves stutter a little before moving at a smooth pace.

                                        The CNC control I have personally used the most uses a USB connection so it doesn't have to worry about packet travel.

                                        It's worth playing with it some more, I do understand the desire for continuous jogging especially on larger machines.

                                        https://github.com/Sindarius/DWC_GamepadJogger_Plugin

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                                        • AverageUserundefined
                                          AverageUser
                                          last edited by AverageUser

                                          Hi guys, I'm not really into this whole github thing. I think you are doing AN AMAZING work here. But I have no idea how i can run DWC-CNC on my Duet2wifi... can somebody give an idiot(me^^) a hint?!

                                          (I uploaded the files of the release: Duet Release.png
                                          into my www-folder of the SD Card.. But my interface still looks like the 3D-printer interface:
                                          Duet Interface.png

                                          I also added M453 into the config file:
                                          duet config.png

                                          can it be that my firmware is too old?
                                          Duet Firmware.png

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                                          • chrishammundefined
                                            chrishamm administrators @AverageUser
                                            last edited by

                                            @AverageUser Perhaps it's still cached. Try pressing Ctrl+Shift+R to reload DWC.

                                            Duet software engineer

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