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    • oc_geekundefined
      oc_geek @pkos
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      @pkos thanks !

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      • dc42undefined
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        I confirm that there appears to be a problem with DHT sensor support on the Duet 3 Mini. I have configured a DHT22 on pin spi.cs2. I can see the firmware requesting a reading and the sensor responding, but it looks like the firmware isn't picking up the response.

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        • dc42undefined
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          I found the problem. The spi.cs# pins on the 3 Mini don't support interrupts. I am looking for alternative pins to use.

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          • oc_geekundefined
            oc_geek
            last edited by

            ok thanks... will be then the third time i redo the connector LOL

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            • dc42undefined
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              last edited by dc42

              The solution will be to connect the DHT sensor to one of the 5-pin IO connectors. The signal wire will need to be connected to both the iox.in and iox.out pins. The Vcc and ground pins can be connected to 3v3 and GND on the same connector. The firmware support will be in RRF 3.3beta1, due to be released shortly.

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              • oc_geekundefined
                oc_geek
                last edited by oc_geek

                ohh great that's where it was before... damn cut again and rewire

                So i have to Y the signal to BOTH in and out pins ?

                @dc42 and the configuration in firmware what pin would it call in
                Sxx P"..." ?

                P.S. I think you would concur that this a pretty weird wiring setup... wonder how come the cs pins are as they are...

                thanks

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                • dc42undefined
                  dc42 administrators
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                  The issue is that on the MCU used in the Duet 3 Mini, only some pins have a pin change interrupt facility. We assigned the available interrupts to input pins. However, the input pins have a 10K series resistor to make them tolerant of high input voltages, so they can't be used as outputs in this application.

                  The configuration line you will need is this or similar:

                  M308 S10 P"io4.out+io4.in" Y"dht21" A"Chbr Temp [C]" ; Set DHT21 for chamber temp
                  

                  I have this working now.

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                  • oc_geekundefined
                    oc_geek
                    last edited by

                    wow in + out LOL would never have thought about that

                    my wires are ready !

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                    thanks

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                    • dc42undefined
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                      This is now released, see https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/21597/reprapfirmware-3-3beta1-now-available.

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                      • oc_geekundefined
                        oc_geek @dc42
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                        @dc42 Thank you for the prompt feedback. Will check it out, test and report back

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                        • MikeSundefined
                          MikeS @dc42
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                          @dc42 just to clarify the daughter board cs pins can be used if 10k resistor is unsoldered and pads are bridged? or all daughter board cs pins can't handle interrupts?

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                          • oc_geekundefined
                            oc_geek @MikeS
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                            @MikeS which daughter board do you ref to ?

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                            • oc_geekundefined
                              oc_geek
                              last edited by oc_geek

                              @dc42 said in Mini 5+ and DHT21 sensor:

                              M308 S10 P"io4.out+io4.in" Y"dht21" A"Chbr Temp [C]"

                              tested with Rel 3.3 Beta 1

                              it is working now, thanks

                              b3ab2f83-07da-4a63-bf26-acd90741ba44-image.png

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                              • MikeSundefined
                                MikeS @oc_geek
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                                @oc_geek i thought you were using the daughterboard connection for the DHT which is made to be used with this: https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/PT100_temperature_sensor_daughter_board. Now i saw that you used the 12864_EXP* one. I don't understand if all expansion / daughterboard SPI pins can't use interrupts, or maybe some have it but they have the 10k resistor. In the second case the resistor could be unsoldered and, with the pads bridged, only one pin used for I/O.

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                                • oc_geekundefined
                                  oc_geek
                                  last edited by oc_geek

                                  no i do not use any Temp DB as the mini 5+ has direct support for DHT21

                                  i was using the Temp DB plug to get the cs pin but it doesn't work so..

                                  now I'm using the IO4 5 pin receptacle and with the Y cable (in and out bridged to signal) it works (with rel 3.3 beta1)

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                                  • oc_geekundefined
                                    oc_geek @MikeS
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                                    @MikeS the SPI appears to do not support interrupts, yes

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                                    • oc_geekundefined
                                      oc_geek
                                      last edited by oc_geek

                                      @dc42 I have to report that it seems there are still some issues in the Rel 3.3 Beta 1
                                      as by time to time the sensor reports 2000*C , not sure if there are better fixes in the works..

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                                      ..it MIGHT be related to the fact that the steppers go in stand by...but not sure really... it either works very well or read 2000*C

                                      it is doing it all the time...

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                                      • oc_geekundefined
                                        oc_geek @oc_geek
                                        last edited by oc_geek

                                        now she is printing and the sensor appears fine ... weird really werid ....

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                                        • dc42undefined
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                                          Are you using shielded cable to connect the DHT21? The one-wire bus is sensitive to noise (like I2C) so if you use unshielded cable then it is very likely to pick up interference from any stepper motor cables that it runs close to.

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                                          • oc_geekundefined
                                            oc_geek @dc42
                                            last edited by oc_geek

                                            @dc42 nothing related to interference sorry

                                            the issue appears it seems when the printer is resting. No prob when it is printing it has been 3 hours and not a single glitch ... something in the FW isn't right; the issue present itself at rest status

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                                            Will an external feed of 5V DCC make a difference ?
                                            It seems something changes when the board is resting...

                                            This is what happens after a print of 7h with zero problems with the sensor...
                                            ...print finishes and there it is the sensor goes crazy...again...

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