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    Veti
    last edited by 2 Mar 2021, 05:21

    M350 X16 Y16 Z64 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation

    duet wifi only support interpolation at x16, so your config does not work.

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      Veti
      last edited by 2 Mar 2021, 05:23

      to me i looks like z banding.
      have you greased your leadscrews?

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        Phantom329 @Veti
        last edited by Phantom329 3 Feb 2021, 06:02 2 Mar 2021, 06:01

        @Veti Yeah I know it looks like banding due to the lead screws, but how does that make sense when some parts or half a print comes out perfect? Also I greased my lead screws last month with ptfe grease and they are very low friction, can be back-driven easily. Also the pitch doesn't match the banding, the lead screws are 2mm pitch with 4 starts but the banding is not a multiple of that and changes between prints or sections of the print.

        I didn't realize about the interpolation, I'll try changing it and see what happens.

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          Veti
          last edited by 2 Mar 2021, 06:03

          did you check if the leadscrews are straight?

          by rolling them on a flat surface like a glass table.

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            Phaedrux Moderator
            last edited by 2 Mar 2021, 19:01

            Have you PID tuned your bed heater yet?

            Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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              Phantom329 @Phaedrux
              last edited by 3 Mar 2021, 00:08

              @Phaedrux Yes but I'm sure you noticed it is in bang-bang mode. I have an issue where the entire thing hums audibly so I can't use pwm.

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                Phantom329 @Veti
                last edited by 3 Mar 2021, 00:27

                @Veti I just checked the lead screws and there is very slight bend, like 0.5mm off the table. I don't think that would account for what I am seeing here. When I do get a good print, I think I can see the effect of that bend and its is not ridges, just very slight deformation every 4mm. The ridges in the above parts are usually 1.4mm apart but as you can see in the first part on the left, the ridges can be further apart.

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                  Phaedrux Moderator @Phantom329
                  last edited by 3 Mar 2021, 00:47

                  @Phantom329 said in Intermittent Z issues:

                  the entire thing hums audibly so I can't use pwm.

                  Try a different PWM frequency? I would say bang bang is your issue. Try a print with the bed is off. To get good bed adhesion try a high temp for the first layer and then 0 after that to keep the bed off. I bet you'll see the banding gone.

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                    Phantom329 @Phaedrux
                    last edited by 3 Mar 2021, 01:24

                    @Phaedrux genius
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                    Bed at 60C for the first layer, then off. I just have to get PID mode working then.

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                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by 3 Mar 2021, 04:41

                      You can change the frequency with M950 Q I believe.

                      What kind of bed heater is it?

                      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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