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    • TristanKoelnundefined
      TristanKoeln
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      @fcwilt after homeing 8,98
      nozzel on bead 0,13

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @TristanKoeln
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        @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

        @fcwilt after homeing 8,98
        nozzel on bead 0,13

        That suggests that the Z trigger height setting needs to be increased by 0,13.

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • TristanKoelnundefined
          TristanKoeln
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          @fcwilt oke but that does not close the gabe of about1-2mm

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @TristanKoeln
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            @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

            @fcwilt oke but that does not close the gabe of about1-2mm

            When does this gap of 1-2mm occur?

            Frederick

            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • TristanKoelnundefined
              TristanKoeln
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              @fcwilt when im trying to print

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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @TristanKoeln
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                @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                @fcwilt when im trying to print

                That suggests that something is occurring at the start of a print to cause the gap.

                What commands are executed at the start of a print?

                Are these commands entered into your slicer or are they in a gcode file on your printer?

                Thanks.

                Frederick

                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • TristanKoelnundefined
                  TristanKoeln
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                  @fcwilt 0f8560c4-c81c-4dc5-9f49-f79f6dc92e94-image.png

                  im using cura with that start code

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @TristanKoeln
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                    @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                    @fcwilt 0f8560c4-c81c-4dc5-9f49-f79f6dc92e94-image.png

                    im using cura with that start code

                    Thanks.

                    As a test try starting a print (it doesn't have to finish) but comment out those two commands - the M98 and the G29.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • TristanKoelnundefined
                      TristanKoeln
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                      @fcwilt with no high map loaded the heat is just crushing in the build plate, i stoped the print directly

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @TristanKoeln
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                        @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                        @fcwilt with no high map loaded the heat is just crushing in the build plate, i stoped the print directly

                        Interesting. That should not happen.

                        Can you post a screen shot of what your height map looks like in the DWC height map viewer?

                        Thanks.

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt
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                          @fcwilt said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                          That suggests that the Z trigger height setting needs to be increased by 0,13.

                          I made a foolish mistake when I posted this:

                          That suggests that the Z trigger height setting needs to be increased by 0,13.

                          I typed increased but it should have been decreased.

                          My apologies.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • TristanKoelnundefined
                            TristanKoeln
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                            @fcwilt dd92175b-7992-44cc-a267-04f423973ed4-image.png

                            i relvled it before the last test

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @TristanKoeln
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                              @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                              @fcwilt dd92175b-7992-44cc-a267-04f423973ed4-image.png

                              i relvled it before the last test

                              Thanks.

                              When you see the height map far from the grid (up or down) that indicates that the Z=0 datum was not set when the height map was created or the Z trigger height was incorrect.

                              You can speed the process of creating height maps for testing to determine why they are far from the grid by specifying a 3-by-3 grid in M557 - something like M557 Xaaa:bbb Yccc:ddd P3:3 where aaa,bbb,ccc,ddd are appropriate for your printer.

                              You wont get any detail but you will get an overall view of the height map to see if some part of it is on the grid.

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • TristanKoelnundefined
                                TristanKoeln
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                                @fcwilt what do i have to change to corrwct the z=0 datum

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                                • fcwiltundefined
                                  fcwilt @TristanKoeln
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                                  @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                                  @fcwilt what do i have to change to corrwct the z=0 datum

                                  Remember when I asked you to post the Z position after G30 and then asked you to jog down to the bed?

                                  And I told you (wrongly) to increase the Z trigger height by 0,13?

                                  If you have not already done so decrease the Z trigger height by 0,13 and perform that test again - home Z and then jog down till nozzle is just touching the bed.

                                  If the Z position when just touching the bed is not 0 adjust the Z trigger height and perform the test again.

                                  If the Z position when just touching the bed is greater than 0 decrease the Z trigger height by that amount and perform the test again.

                                  If the Z position when just touching the bed is less than 0 increase the Z trigger height by that amount and perform the test again.

                                  Once you get the Z position when just touching the bed to be 0 then you have found the correct Z trigger height.

                                  Then you can temporarily change your M557 to create that 3-by-3 height map, create the height map and check the relation of the height map to the grid.

                                  The goal is to determine why that height map is currently so far above the grid.

                                  This is what a perfect height map would look like if it were possible to achieve perfection:

                                  Perfect Height Map.png

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  • TristanKoelnundefined
                                    TristanKoeln
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                                    @fcwilt ![0_1615828419133_2ed42c4e-9db5-45e4-8927-80bf7f66d63a-image.png](Uploading 100%)

                                    now it looks like this, do you think that that could work now?

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                                    • TristanKoelnundefined
                                      TristanKoeln
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                                      42d29aa3-050e-463d-a4ec-5a6205775d08-image.png

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                                        That's a lot better.

                                        When you change your trigger height or removed the G92 from your homez files you would have needed to redo the heightmap. I think that was part of the problem of why it was so offset at the start of a print. It was loading an old heightmap.

                                        Also, you should remove your PLA_offset macro. Changing the trigger height like that is going to lead to problems. If you want to add an offset use baby stepping instead. You can do that manually with the button, or if you want to do it in a macro similar to the PLA_ffset macro you can do that with a baby stepping command.

                                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode?revisionid=HEAD#Section_M290_Baby_stepping

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @TristanKoeln
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                                          @TristanKoeln

                                          You got it down on the grid!

                                          Great work.

                                          It's turned up at the corners quite a bit but it should work at least in that flat area.

                                          If you want to post a photo of the bed of your printer perhaps someone can suggest ways to make it flatter.

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          • TristanKoelnundefined
                                            TristanKoeln
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                                            @fcwilt its an anycubic chiron ultrabase

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