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    • TristanKoelnundefined
      TristanKoeln
      last edited by

      @fcwilt the G92 is only in the home all file ;
      not realy

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @TristanKoeln
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        @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

        @fcwilt the G92 is only in the home all file ;

        Just before that G92 Z10 you have a call to homeZ.g which executes a G30 and sets the Z=0 Datum and leaves the Z position at dive height + Z trigger height.

        You can't just tell the firmware with a G92 that the Z position is something else and expect things to work.

        You can change the actual Z position with a G1 Znnn command but not with a G92 command.

        not realy

        When you use M401/M402 the firmware keeps track of the state of the probe (retracted/deployed).

        When you use the M280 command to retract/deploy the actual state of the probe and what state the firmware thinks the probe is in may conflict and possibly cause problems.


        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • TristanKoelnundefined
          TristanKoeln
          last edited by

          if im setting all the G92 Z(dive + trigger geigh) could that solve the problem

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          • fcwiltundefined
            fcwilt @TristanKoeln
            last edited by

            @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

            if im setting all the G92 Z(dive + trigger geigh) could that solve the problem

            Hi,

            You don't need to.

            The G30 leaves the Z axis position at dive height + Z trigger height.

            Setting it again with G92 to dive height + Z trigger height is redundant and serves no purpose.

            G92 is useful in certain specific instances and unless you are dealing with one of those instances you should treat the presence of G92 in your code as very suspicious and likely should be removed.

            When in doubt ask.

            Frederick

            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            • TristanKoelnundefined
              TristanKoeln
              last edited by

              @fcwilt I removed all G92, and relevled everything, still not working

              ; homeall.g
              ; called to home all axes
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Mon Jan 18 2021 17:44:49 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit)
              
              ;DUAL Z 
              ;M584 Z2:4   
              
              M280 P0 S90
              G91                     ; relative positioning
              G1 H2 Z10 F6000         ; lift Z relative to current position
              G1 H1 X-405 Y-405 F5000 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
              G1 H2 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
              G1 H1 X-405 Y-405 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
              M98 Phomez.g            ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
              G90                     ; absolute positioning
              ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
              
              ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
              ;G91                    ; relative positioning
              ;G1 Z10 F100            ; lift Z relative to current position
              ;G90                    ; absolute positioning
              
              
              ; homez.g
              ; called to home the Z axis
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Mon Jan 18 2021 17:44:49 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit)
              G91                 ;relative positioning
              G1 H2 Z10 F6000     ;lift Z relative to current position
              G1 H1 Z-500 F3000   ;Go down till endstop
              G1 H2 Z10 F6000
              G1 X200 Y200 F4000  ;go to midle
              G30                 ;move Z down until the endstop is triggered
                        ;set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
              
              
              
              ;Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
              ;G91                ; relative positioning
              ;G1 Z10 F100        ;lift Z relative to current position
              G90                ;absolute positioning
              
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              • fcwiltundefined
                fcwilt @TristanKoeln
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                @TristanKoeln

                Hi,

                After you do a Home ALL or a Home Z what does the DWC report for the Z position?

                At the point if you use the Z jog controls to lower the nozzle to just touch the bed what does the DWC report for the Z position?

                Thanks.

                Frederick

                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                • TristanKoelnundefined
                  TristanKoeln
                  last edited by

                  @fcwilt after homeing 8,98
                  nozzel on bead 0,13

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                    last edited by

                    @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                    @fcwilt after homeing 8,98
                    nozzel on bead 0,13

                    That suggests that the Z trigger height setting needs to be increased by 0,13.

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • TristanKoelnundefined
                      TristanKoeln
                      last edited by

                      @fcwilt oke but that does not close the gabe of about1-2mm

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                        last edited by

                        @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                        @fcwilt oke but that does not close the gabe of about1-2mm

                        When does this gap of 1-2mm occur?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • TristanKoelnundefined
                          TristanKoeln
                          last edited by

                          @fcwilt when im trying to print

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                          • fcwiltundefined
                            fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                            last edited by

                            @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                            @fcwilt when im trying to print

                            That suggests that something is occurring at the start of a print to cause the gap.

                            What commands are executed at the start of a print?

                            Are these commands entered into your slicer or are they in a gcode file on your printer?

                            Thanks.

                            Frederick

                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            • TristanKoelnundefined
                              TristanKoeln
                              last edited by

                              @fcwilt 0f8560c4-c81c-4dc5-9f49-f79f6dc92e94-image.png

                              im using cura with that start code

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                                last edited by

                                @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                                @fcwilt 0f8560c4-c81c-4dc5-9f49-f79f6dc92e94-image.png

                                im using cura with that start code

                                Thanks.

                                As a test try starting a print (it doesn't have to finish) but comment out those two commands - the M98 and the G29.

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • TristanKoelnundefined
                                  TristanKoeln
                                  last edited by

                                  @fcwilt with no high map loaded the heat is just crushing in the build plate, i stoped the print directly

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                                    last edited by

                                    @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                                    @fcwilt with no high map loaded the heat is just crushing in the build plate, i stoped the print directly

                                    Interesting. That should not happen.

                                    Can you post a screen shot of what your height map looks like in the DWC height map viewer?

                                    Thanks.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • fcwiltundefined
                                      fcwilt
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                                      @fcwilt said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                                      That suggests that the Z trigger height setting needs to be increased by 0,13.

                                      I made a foolish mistake when I posted this:

                                      That suggests that the Z trigger height setting needs to be increased by 0,13.

                                      I typed increased but it should have been decreased.

                                      My apologies.

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      • TristanKoelnundefined
                                        TristanKoeln
                                        last edited by

                                        @fcwilt dd92175b-7992-44cc-a267-04f423973ed4-image.png

                                        i relvled it before the last test

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                                          last edited by

                                          @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                                          @fcwilt dd92175b-7992-44cc-a267-04f423973ed4-image.png

                                          i relvled it before the last test

                                          Thanks.

                                          When you see the height map far from the grid (up or down) that indicates that the Z=0 datum was not set when the height map was created or the Z trigger height was incorrect.

                                          You can speed the process of creating height maps for testing to determine why they are far from the grid by specifying a 3-by-3 grid in M557 - something like M557 Xaaa:bbb Yccc:ddd P3:3 where aaa,bbb,ccc,ddd are appropriate for your printer.

                                          You wont get any detail but you will get an overall view of the height map to see if some part of it is on the grid.

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          • TristanKoelnundefined
                                            TristanKoeln
                                            last edited by

                                            @fcwilt what do i have to change to corrwct the z=0 datum

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