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    • TristanKoelnundefined
      TristanKoeln
      last edited by

      so i edit the files

      ; homez.g
      ; called to home the Z axis
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Mon Jan 18 2021 17:44:49 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit)
      G91               ; relative positioning
      G1 H2 Z10 F6000   ; lift Z relative to current position
      G1 H1 Z-500 F3000 ;Go down till endstop
      G1 H2 Z10 F6000
      G1 X200 Y200 F4000 ;go to midle
      G30 ; move Z down until the endstop is triggered
      ;G92 Z0        ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
      
      
      
      ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
      ;G91              ; relative positioning
      ;G1 Z10 F100      ; lift Z relative to current position
      G90              ; absolute positioning
      
      
      ; homeall.g
      ; called to home all axes
      ;
      ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Mon Jan 18 2021 17:44:49 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit)
      
      ;DUAL Z 
      ;M584 Z2:4   
      
      M280 P0 S90
      G91                     ; relative positioning
      G1 H2 Z10 F6000         ; lift Z relative to current position
      G1 H1 X-405 Y-405 F5000 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
      G1 H2 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
      G1 H1 X-405 Y-405 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
      M98 Phomez.g            ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
      G90                     ; absolute positioning
      G92 Z10                ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
      
      ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
      ;G91                    ; relative positioning
      ;G1 Z10 F100            ; lift Z relative to current position
      ;G90                    ; absolute positioning
      
      

      i got the nozzel once close to the bed.. to close after i made the calibration process again the problem from the start came back

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      • TristanKoelnundefined
        TristanKoeln
        last edited by

        @fcwilt and the M280 is just to move the pin in a save position just incase it isnt

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @TristanKoeln
          last edited by

          @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

          i got the nozzel once close to the bed.. to close after i made the calibration process again the problem from the start came back

          Did you leave the G92 Z10 in homeALL.g?

          And did you understand what I meant about the firmware losing track of the state of the probe if you didn't use M401/M402?

          Frederick

          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • TristanKoelnundefined
            TristanKoeln
            last edited by

            @fcwilt the G92 is only in the home all file ;
            not realy

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @TristanKoeln
              last edited by

              @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

              @fcwilt the G92 is only in the home all file ;

              Just before that G92 Z10 you have a call to homeZ.g which executes a G30 and sets the Z=0 Datum and leaves the Z position at dive height + Z trigger height.

              You can't just tell the firmware with a G92 that the Z position is something else and expect things to work.

              You can change the actual Z position with a G1 Znnn command but not with a G92 command.

              not realy

              When you use M401/M402 the firmware keeps track of the state of the probe (retracted/deployed).

              When you use the M280 command to retract/deploy the actual state of the probe and what state the firmware thinks the probe is in may conflict and possibly cause problems.


              Frederick

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • TristanKoelnundefined
                TristanKoeln
                last edited by

                if im setting all the G92 Z(dive + trigger geigh) could that solve the problem

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                  last edited by

                  @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                  if im setting all the G92 Z(dive + trigger geigh) could that solve the problem

                  Hi,

                  You don't need to.

                  The G30 leaves the Z axis position at dive height + Z trigger height.

                  Setting it again with G92 to dive height + Z trigger height is redundant and serves no purpose.

                  G92 is useful in certain specific instances and unless you are dealing with one of those instances you should treat the presence of G92 in your code as very suspicious and likely should be removed.

                  When in doubt ask.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • TristanKoelnundefined
                    TristanKoeln
                    last edited by

                    @fcwilt I removed all G92, and relevled everything, still not working

                    ; homeall.g
                    ; called to home all axes
                    ;
                    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Mon Jan 18 2021 17:44:49 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit)
                    
                    ;DUAL Z 
                    ;M584 Z2:4   
                    
                    M280 P0 S90
                    G91                     ; relative positioning
                    G1 H2 Z10 F6000         ; lift Z relative to current position
                    G1 H1 X-405 Y-405 F5000 ; move quickly to X and Y axis endstops and stop there (first pass)
                    G1 H2 X5 Y5 F6000       ; go back a few mm
                    G1 H1 X-405 Y-405 F360  ; move slowly to X and Y axis endstops once more (second pass)
                    M98 Phomez.g            ; move Z down stopping at the endstop
                    G90                     ; absolute positioning
                    ; set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
                    
                    ; Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                    ;G91                    ; relative positioning
                    ;G1 Z10 F100            ; lift Z relative to current position
                    ;G90                    ; absolute positioning
                    
                    
                    ; homez.g
                    ; called to home the Z axis
                    ;
                    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.1 on Mon Jan 18 2021 17:44:49 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit)
                    G91                 ;relative positioning
                    G1 H2 Z10 F6000     ;lift Z relative to current position
                    G1 H1 Z-500 F3000   ;Go down till endstop
                    G1 H2 Z10 F6000
                    G1 X200 Y200 F4000  ;go to midle
                    G30                 ;move Z down until the endstop is triggered
                              ;set Z position to axis minimum (you may want to adjust this)
                    
                    
                    
                    ;Uncomment the following lines to lift Z after probing
                    ;G91                ; relative positioning
                    ;G1 Z10 F100        ;lift Z relative to current position
                    G90                ;absolute positioning
                    
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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                      last edited by

                      @TristanKoeln

                      Hi,

                      After you do a Home ALL or a Home Z what does the DWC report for the Z position?

                      At the point if you use the Z jog controls to lower the nozzle to just touch the bed what does the DWC report for the Z position?

                      Thanks.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • TristanKoelnundefined
                        TristanKoeln
                        last edited by

                        @fcwilt after homeing 8,98
                        nozzel on bead 0,13

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                          last edited by

                          @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                          @fcwilt after homeing 8,98
                          nozzel on bead 0,13

                          That suggests that the Z trigger height setting needs to be increased by 0,13.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • TristanKoelnundefined
                            TristanKoeln
                            last edited by

                            @fcwilt oke but that does not close the gabe of about1-2mm

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                              last edited by

                              @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                              @fcwilt oke but that does not close the gabe of about1-2mm

                              When does this gap of 1-2mm occur?

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • TristanKoelnundefined
                                TristanKoeln
                                last edited by

                                @fcwilt when im trying to print

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                                • fcwiltundefined
                                  fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                                  last edited by

                                  @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                                  @fcwilt when im trying to print

                                  That suggests that something is occurring at the start of a print to cause the gap.

                                  What commands are executed at the start of a print?

                                  Are these commands entered into your slicer or are they in a gcode file on your printer?

                                  Thanks.

                                  Frederick

                                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                  • TristanKoelnundefined
                                    TristanKoeln
                                    last edited by

                                    @fcwilt 0f8560c4-c81c-4dc5-9f49-f79f6dc92e94-image.png

                                    im using cura with that start code

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                                    • fcwiltundefined
                                      fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                                      last edited by

                                      @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                                      @fcwilt 0f8560c4-c81c-4dc5-9f49-f79f6dc92e94-image.png

                                      im using cura with that start code

                                      Thanks.

                                      As a test try starting a print (it doesn't have to finish) but comment out those two commands - the M98 and the G29.

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                      • TristanKoelnundefined
                                        TristanKoeln
                                        last edited by

                                        @fcwilt with no high map loaded the heat is just crushing in the build plate, i stoped the print directly

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                                        • fcwiltundefined
                                          fcwilt @TristanKoeln
                                          last edited by

                                          @TristanKoeln said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                                          @fcwilt with no high map loaded the heat is just crushing in the build plate, i stoped the print directly

                                          Interesting. That should not happen.

                                          Can you post a screen shot of what your height map looks like in the DWC height map viewer?

                                          Thanks.

                                          Frederick

                                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                          • fcwiltundefined
                                            fcwilt
                                            last edited by

                                            @fcwilt said in Heigh error after calibrating:

                                            That suggests that the Z trigger height setting needs to be increased by 0,13.

                                            I made a foolish mistake when I posted this:

                                            That suggests that the Z trigger height setting needs to be increased by 0,13.

                                            I typed increased but it should have been decreased.

                                            My apologies.

                                            Frederick

                                            Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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