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    Dan1990
    last edited by 18 Mar 2021, 20:47

    Good evening,

    I performed the calculation to figure out the power consumption of my printer and I am not sure if I am correct.

    My PSU at the moment is 24V and 25 A non - name brand. I would like to change it to Meanwell and I wonder what size of PSU will be most suitable for me.

    My setup:
    Duet 3 HC
    5 motors - e3d High Torque Motor - 1.62 A
    1 motor - e3d compact but powerful - 1.62 A
    Hot end - E3D V6 - 40W heater - 1.6 A
    Hotend fan - no data for PC but so I assume is around 0.1A
    Blower fan - no-name from Aliexpres - 0.1A

    So, the sum of all current is 11.52A. Taking into consideration that the motors are not running on full power, therefore the PC will be lower.

    I reckon that the Meanwell 350.4W 24V 14.6A LRS-350-24 will be enough but I will appreciate a second opinion.

    Thanks
    Dan

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      droftarts administrators @Dan1990
      last edited by 18 Mar 2021, 20:54

      @Dan1990 No heated bed? That's usually the biggest current draw.

      Ian

      Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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        Dan1990 @droftarts
        last edited by 18 Mar 2021, 20:58

        @droftarts

        The heated bed is powered from the mains.

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          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by 18 Mar 2021, 21:04

          That looks ok. When the heated bed is AC powered you can get away with a much smaller PSU. Meanwell has some nice passive units in the 200-300 watt range that work really well.

          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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            theruttmeister
            last edited by 18 Mar 2021, 21:06

            More than enough.

            Remember that the current values you are using for the motors are peak, for sizing a PSU you want to be using RMS (kinda)

            Last time I bothered actually using a meter to check (and I admit it was a very long time ago) a RAMPS based printer with a ~40w heater (hand wound, so the ~ is doing a lot of work), was only drawing 70W at the wall in normal operation.

            Over a sample size of over a thousand printers that I am familiar with, 24v 200W Meanwell PSU was never insufficient.

            Maybe if you were running a Duet 3HC with big NEMA23's and really driving stuff hard...

            IIRC, even tested a 100W PSU... worked just fine. But the price difference was small enough that we kept the 200W.

            Isolate, substitute, verify.

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              droftarts administrators
              last edited by 18 Mar 2021, 22:02

              I power my little Delta printer with no heated bed with a laptop PSU; 19V @ 3.42A = 64.98 watts!

              Ian

              Bed-slinger - Mini5+ WiFi/1LC | RRP Fisher v1 - D2 WiFi | Polargraph - D2 WiFi | TronXY X5S - 6HC/Roto | CNC router - 6HC | Tractus3D T1250 - D2 Eth

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                Dan1990
                last edited by 19 Mar 2021, 05:55

                Thank you for all your replies! Now I am sure 🙂 Have a good weekend

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                  dc42 administrators
                  last edited by dc42 19 Mar 2021, 07:05

                  The motors will draw far less current than you are assuming. See https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Choosing_the_power_supply. A 5A PSU would likely be sufficient.

                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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