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    • erwalyundefined
      erwaly
      last edited by erwaly

      Thanks for aswer, i use the internal mosfet, and yes this is the only problem I have, but that is normal? I got other board and dont have this problem just in that one. When i down the fz to 10 is not make sound, but i think not is normal use, but the temperature is right and stable.and the pid complete succesfully.
      Can i use the pwm fz in Q1 ? there look work some beter,the temeperature is right and look normal work.

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      • erwalyundefined
        erwaly @erwaly
        last edited by

        I up two videos in youtube one whit Q10 in config and other whiteout it.

        Thas is whiteout it:
        [link text] (https://youtu.be/OJNgrLSMkKQ)

        That whit Q10 in config:

        link text

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        • Stephen6309undefined
          Stephen6309
          last edited by

          The leds light when the heater output is supplied power. So, they will flash while maintaining the temperature.

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          • erwalyundefined
            erwaly
            last edited by

            yes the problem that its is crazy or thats is the normal work in duet? and whit q10 in config is a tic tic tic sound and not stop in high temperatures.you can see it in the second video.

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            • Stephen6309undefined
              Stephen6309
              last edited by Stephen6309

              The amount of flashing delpends on on hard it has to work to maintain the temperature. I've never had the mosfets make any noise on my Duets or RAMPS. The only time I had clicking was when I had to use a relay module on a AC bed heater.

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              • erwalyundefined
                erwaly
                last edited by

                I got a 24v 15A 360W power supply and not use external mosfet is conect to board.

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @erwaly
                  last edited by

                  @erwaly said in Heaters problem:

                  Can i use the pwm fz in Q1

                  Yes I think so. I think I've used it in the past to stop the pot lights from flickering. Give it a try.

                  The video definitely shows more audible clicking that I would expect. But maybe my noise floor is a lot higher and I just never noticed before.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
                    last edited by

                    After doing a heating of the bed can you send M122 in the gcode console and post the results here please?

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      Mosfets do not normally make any noise, so I suspect the noise is coming from somewhere else, e.g. the PSU, or the bed heater itself.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                      • erwalyundefined
                        erwaly @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @Phaedrux yes i send m122 when the bed is to 60° degrees that show me:

                        M122
                        === Diagnostics ===
                        RepRapFirmware for Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.2.2 running on Duet WiFi 1.02 or later
                        Board ID: 08DGM-9T6BU-FG3S8-6J1F8-3S86Q-1BKZF
                        Used output buffers: 3 of 24 (12 max)
                        === RTOS ===
                        Static ram: 23460
                        Dynamic ram: 73404 of which 32 recycled
                        Never used RAM 15184, free system stack 182 words
                        Tasks: NETWORK(ready,182) HEAT(blocked,294) MAIN(running,449) IDLE(ready,20)
                        Owned mutexes:
                        === Platform ===
                        Last reset 00:05:05 ago, cause: power up
                        Last software reset at 2021-03-23 19:50, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 15184, slot 2
                        Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x0041f000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
                        Error status: 0x00
                        Aux0 errors 0,0,0
                        MCU temperature: min 26.9, current 37.4, max 37.5
                        Supply voltage: min 23.9, current 24.7, max 25.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
                        Driver 0: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 1: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 2: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 3: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 4: position 0, standstill, SG min/max not available
                        Driver 5: position 0
                        Driver 6: position 0
                        Driver 7: position 0
                        Driver 8: position 0
                        Driver 9: position 0
                        Driver 10: position 0
                        Driver 11: position 0
                        Date/time: 2021-03-23 23:01:32
                        Cache data hit count 370524343
                        Slowest loop: 154.06ms; fastest: 0.21ms
                        I2C nak errors 0, send timeouts 0, receive timeouts 0, finishTimeouts 0, resets 0
                        === Storage ===
                        Free file entries: 10
                        SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 20.0MBytes/sec
                        SD card longest read time 1.7ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
                        === Move ===
                        DMs created 83, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
                        === MainDDARing ===
                        Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                        === AuxDDARing ===
                        Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
                        === Heat ===
                        Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
                        Heater 0 is on, I-accum = 0.0
                        === GCodes ===
                        Segments left: 0
                        Movement lock held by null
                        HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
                        Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
                        File is idle in state(s) 0
                        USB is idle in state(s) 0
                        Aux is idle in state(s) 0
                        Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
                        Queue is idle in state(s) 0
                        LCD is idle in state(s) 0
                        Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
                        Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
                        Code queue is empty.
                        === Network ===
                        Slowest loop: 15.70ms; fastest: 0.00ms
                        Responder states: HTTP(2) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
                        HTTP sessions: 1 of 8

                        • WiFi -
                          Network state is active
                          WiFi module is connected to access point
                          Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
                          WiFi firmware version 1.25
                          WiFi MAC address cc:50:e3:14:a8:92
                          WiFi Vcc 3.38, reset reason Turned on by main processor
                          WiFi flash size 4194304, free heap 24952
                          WiFi IP address 192.168.1.85
                          WiFi signal strength -75dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
                          Clock register 00002002
                          Socket states: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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                        • erwalyundefined
                          erwaly @dc42
                          last edited by

                          @dc42 maybe is the power supply tomorrow can i try other one, and i don't think is the hotbed because whit the hotend have same problem. And today i changed the thermistor and wires from the bed for new ones to try and nothing I got same problem.when I'll try the power supply i say it here, thanks for yours attention.

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                          • erwalyundefined
                            erwaly @dc42
                            last edited by

                            @dc42 I tryed other power supply today the same one 24v 15a 360w, and when heating it the bed,in the new power supply is burned to 160ohm resistance... I so strange because the first one don't have nothing burned and work fine just the sound...i buy a new hotend for extruder a new hotbed, tomorrow i try the extruder, the bed is take more time to come, but a say anything here when i change it. Thanks for their help.

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                            • erwalyundefined
                              erwaly @erwaly
                              last edited by

                              @erwaly finally i get a new bed and new hotend, i got a logistics problem whit the send and coming today, i try whit new bed, new thermistor,new wires and different power supply and i have the same problem. Whit the new power supply is less sound but can listen it... I think maybe can is a bad update, i don't remember whit what firmware comes not sure but maybe 1.21 or 2.02 i buy it on 2019 but never use before. I want to downgrade the software and new upgrade, what is the best firmware to start? From 2.0 and up or better from 1. 21 and up

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by

                                I'm not sure what you mean. Did you have firmware 3.2.2 running as shown in your M122 above?

                                @erwaly said in Heaters problem:

                                Duet 2 WiFi/Ethernet version 3.2.2

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                                • erwalyundefined
                                  erwaly @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by

                                  @phaedrux yes i have 3.2.2 now but i want reinstall and new update, what is the best software to start ne install from 0... 2.00 or 1.21,or 3??i think maybe i don't install one file from old updates.

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    I really don't understand what you're asking. What are you trying to accomplish?

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                                    • erwalyundefined
                                      erwaly @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @phaedrux I think that when I updated my motherboard I made a mistake and some version did not install well. I want to do a clean installation by deleting everything with bossa and installing the board from 0, the thing is which is the best version to install and update, or do I directly load the 3.2.2 again?

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Ah ok. Well if you have access to the board via usb terminal or DWC currently working you can check the installed firmware with M122 or M115. If it's 3.2.2, you're good to go.

                                        If you want to reinstalled everything and you have access to DWC you can just upload the full zip file for 3.2.2.

                                        https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.2.2/Duet2and3Firmware-3.2.2.zip

                                        If you don't have access to DWC and you want to reinstall the firmware with BOSSA use the combined firmware file from that same zip file.

                                        https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.2/Duet2CombinedFirmware.bin

                                        And put the DWC files from this zip file into the /www folder manually.

                                        https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/download/3.2/DuetWebControl-SD.zip

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                                        • erwalyundefined
                                          erwaly @Phaedrux
                                          last edited by

                                          @phaedrux If I have access via web and usb that is not the problem, the question is if I erase the board and install 3.2.2, that version has all the necessary files or should I first update to 3 and then 3.1 ... to 3.2.2

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                                          • Phaedruxundefined
                                            Phaedrux Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            If you're using bossa to flash the board you only need the version you intend to use. After you're up and running though it's probably a good idea to upload the zip file release via the web interface to that all of the other IAP files are present for the next time you want to update the firmware.

                                            In general, if you already have DWC running, just use the zip file upload method.

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