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    3DCloner
    last edited by 31 Mar 2021, 14:38

    Hello gentlemen, how are you?

    Is there a way for me to control the heating rate/time of the heated bed even using an SSR relay and bang-bang mode?
    I have a 127/220 V bed and the glass is cracked because it heats up very quickly.

    Thank you!

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      jens55 @3DCloner
      last edited by 31 Mar 2021, 15:56

      @3dcloner, try sticking a dimmer unit between the SSR and the outlet?

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        fcwilt @3DCloner
        last edited by 31 Mar 2021, 16:16

        @3dcloner you can use PID mode with a SSR by setting the frequency to 10 Hz.

        You can also use a smaller PWM value.

        When you change any of these you must tune it again.

        Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          3DCloner @jens55
          last edited by 31 Mar 2021, 17:20

          @jens55 Great idea, if I can't solve it via firmware, I'll try this one, thanks.

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            3DCloner @fcwilt
            last edited by 31 Mar 2021, 17:25

            @fcwilt I have an SSR with a frequency of 47 to 70 Hz, but I will test it anyway. Regarding PWM, if I reduce the concentration in M307 H0 S0.6, for example, wouldn't I be reducing only the average voltage that gives the signal to the SSR, and the voltage of 127/220 would remain the same?

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              3DCloner @3DCloner
              last edited by 31 Mar 2021, 17:46

              @fcwilt I really don't know about the technical part of PWM, I know about the mechanics area, but the command related to PWM worked, I hadn't tried together because I thought I knew how it works, the lesson remains hahahaha anyway, thank you very much.

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                dc42 administrators @fcwilt
                last edited by dc42 31 Mar 2021, 17:56

                @fcwilt said in Bed heating time/rate with SSR relay:

                You can also use a smaller PWM value.

                That's exactly what you should do if you don't want to change the hardware. However, it sounds to me that you don't have an aluminium heat spreader between the heater and the glass (or if you do then it's too thin), and you are using ordinary glass not borosilicate. You should use either a good heat spreader, or borosilicate glass. My preference is to use a good heat spreader.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                  3DCloner @dc42
                  last edited by 5 Apr 2021, 17:23

                  @dc42 Got it, sorry for the delay in the response. I will follow the recommendations. Thank you very much for your attention! Good week 🙂

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