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    • 64bitundefined
      64bit @Phaedrux
      last edited by

      @phaedrux 20210422_110641[1].jpg 20210422_110729[1].jpg

      It's a pretty extensive overhaul.

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator
        last edited by

        Is this is?

        https://github.com/chandler767/FusionPanel/

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        • 64bitundefined
          64bit @Phaedrux
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          @phaedrux

          Very close. This is the F410. Fusion3 wont come off their files, and its pissing me off. lol

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          • nhofundefined
            nhof @64bit
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            I'm surprised they won't send at least a binary... it's not like anybody is gonna spend the time to reverse engineer and steal their super valuable corporate top secret 3d printer touch screen firmware specific to their machines 🙄 .

            If their version uses elements of the original PanelDueFirmware then they should provide the code per GPL as they are redistributing the code inside their physical product. But if they rolled their own firmware I suppose they can sit on it.

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            • garyd9undefined
              garyd9 @nhof
              last edited by garyd9

              @nhof said in Can Paneldue firmware be saved?:

              If their version uses elements of the original PanelDueFirmware then they should provide the code per GPL as they are redistributing the code inside their physical product. But if they rolled their own firmware I suppose they can sit on it.

              If it's really a PanelDue in there talking to an actual Duet board, I'd be surprised if they rolled their own from scratch. More likely, it would it have been based originally on the GPL'd PanelDueFirmware project. (As far as I know, the paneldue firmware has always been covered by the GPL v3.)

              The only way to really tell would be to examine the source or disassemble the firmware binary.... which might be why they are unwilling to send out the binary. Of course, there might be some other reason they're unwilling, but I have no idea what it might be.

              What I don't see on their website and manuals for the F410 is any licensing information for firmware. Regardless of the panel, if they're using RRF on a duet board, it's also covered by GPLv3 and they should at least include a note stating that portions are covered by GPLv3.

              It might be worthwhile to contact Duet3D to ask them for help.

              "I'm not saying that you are wrong - I'm just trying to fit it into my real world simulated experience."

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator @64bit
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                @64bit said in Can Paneldue firmware be saved?:

                @phaedrux

                Very close. This is the F410. Fusion3 wont come off their files, and its pissing me off. lol

                When you ask, what is the reply?

                @garyd9 said in Can Paneldue firmware be saved?:

                It might be worthwhile to contact Duet3D to ask them for help.

                Here we are to help.

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                • garyd9undefined
                  garyd9 @Phaedrux
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                  @phaedrux said in Can Paneldue firmware be saved?:

                  @garyd9 said in Can Paneldue firmware be saved?:

                  It might be worthwhile to contact Duet3D to ask them for help.

                  Here we are to help.

                  I meant in terms of asking Duet3D to contact Fusion3 in order to enforce license terms of RRF, Paneldue firmware, and DWC. Here's an image from their F410 user manual:

                  0300aea9-3fdb-4902-8546-0a498d57d00c-image.png

                  Based on their "firmware version" string, it appears to be a derived work of RRF 1.18.

                  "I'm not saying that you are wrong - I'm just trying to fit it into my real world simulated experience."

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @garyd9
                    last edited by

                    @garyd9 Indeed we shall if need be.

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                    • 64bitundefined
                      64bit
                      last edited by

                      My Fusion3 machine is outside the warranty window. Fusion3 is already very upset with me for updating the machine to 2.05.1. They said that "There was proprietary code in the firmware and that I would likely brick the machine if you attempt to update the firmware."

                      Joke is on them. It runs great.

                      However, I was looking to update to 3.3, but I need the Panel to still be capable of communicating. Thats why I have been playing with the panel firmware.

                      No bother though, I have other screens.

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                      • elmoretundefined
                        elmoret @64bit
                        last edited by elmoret

                        @64bit I have a copy of the Fusion3 PanelDue hex file, happy to check with them about sharing it though by the license, they should already be doing so...

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                        • elmoretundefined
                          elmoret @64bit
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                          @64bit Source is here:

                          https://github.com/Fusion3-Design/1.18.1-Source-Code

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                          • 64bitundefined
                            64bit @elmoret
                            last edited by

                            @elmoret

                            Oddly enough, I just found that too!

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