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    jsinicro @jsinicro
    last edited by 12 May 2021, 23:31

    @jsinicro G38.2 P0 doesn't deploy the bltouch.

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      jsinicro @jsinicro
      last edited by 13 May 2021, 00:12

      @jsinicro I've separated the M584 X and Z axis to:

      M584 X1.0 U3.0 Y0.2:0.3 Z0.0:0.5  V0.1:0.4 E1.1:3.1 p5
      

      Each axis now homes individually except for the V axis the bltouch will not deploy using the G38.2 P0 command with RRF 3.2.2

      I tried G30 K0 and the probe deployed on the V axis but the Z axis moved down instead the V axis did not move down.

      if I do G28 V it doesn't deploy nor move down.

      Looks like I can deploy both bltouch probes if I combine all motors to the Z axis but so far can't deploy the V axis with its own bltouch.

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        dc42 administrators @jsinicro
        last edited by 13 May 2021, 08:55

        @jsinicro said in 2nd independent Z-Axis labeled V Homing failed:

        @jsinicro G38.2 P0 doesn't deploy the bltouch.

        See my previous response.

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          jsinicro @dc42
          last edited by 13 May 2021, 23:05

          @dc42 Yes, I was confirming what you said that in 3.2.2 it will not deploy the blotouch. I was looking on how to upgrade from 3.2.2 to 3.3RC2 however I was not sure on how to do the upgrade with out building the binaries, then I found this link https://github.com/Duet3D/RepRapFirmware/releases/tag/3.3RC2 which lists all the .bin files and others, so looks like I will need to download all individual files one at a time, or will it be easier to connect to an SBC in my case raspberry pi 4, which is what I used to upgrade to 3.2.2, but still you mention that you're not sure if it will take the trigger height into account. I've decided to combine all motors to just the X, and Z axis and get rid of the U, V and test it out everything is working except the X axis when homing is moving in the opposite direction of where the endstops are located not sure why. I tried to configure M574 with X1 and X2 parameters but it always moves away from the endstops. Not sure what to do here.

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            Phaedrux Moderator @jsinicro
            last edited by 13 May 2021, 23:08

            @jsinicro said in 2nd independent Z-Axis labeled V Homing failed:

            I tried to configure M574 with X1 and X2 parameters but it always moves away from the endstops. Not sure what to do here.

            You control the direction of movement in the homing files. The M574 just defines if the endstop is at low or high end. It's up to you do set the direction towards the endstop in the homing files.

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              jsinicro
              last edited by 13 May 2021, 23:15

              @phaedrux do you have a link on how to do that

              homex.g
              ; called to home the X axis
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Sun Apr 18 2021 23:08:10 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
              G91 ; relative positioning
              G1 H2 Z5 F6000 ; lift Z relative to current position
              G1 H1 X-705 F1100 ; move quickly to X axis endstop and stop there (first pass)
              G1 H2 X5 F6000 ; go back a few mm
              G1 H1 X-705 F360 ; move slowly to X axis endstop once more (second pass)
              G1 H2 X5 F6000
              G1 H2 Z-5 F6000 ; lower Z again
              G90 ; absolute positioning

              Do I need to change this line: G1 H1 X-705 F1100 to G1 H1 X705 F1100
              thx

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                jsinicro @jsinicro
                last edited by 13 May 2021, 23:17

                @jsinicro But that would mean that the positive X axis is in the reverse direction as it was before

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                  Phaedrux Moderator
                  last edited by 13 May 2021, 23:25

                  The G1 H1 X move being positive or negative moves it to the low or high end.

                  The actual direction of travel is dictated by the direction of the rotation of the motor itself defined by M569 S0/S1.

                  Typically you'd want it configured such that 0,0 is in the front left corner when looking at the printer from the front with -x moving to the left, +x moving to the right, -y moving to the front, +y moving to the back. This maintains a coordinate system compatible with CAD and slicing software and keeps the preview matching the actual print with no mirroring or flipping.

                  In a Corexy it gets a bit more complicated because of the shared motion between 2 motors in tandem. https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareCoreXYPrinter#Section_Testing_motor_movement

                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    jsinicro @Phaedrux
                    last edited by 13 May 2021, 23:55

                    @phaedrux yes this is what I have:

                    e22e08f8-9458-4792-b3ef-08c547fa1a5b-image.png

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                      jsinicro @jsinicro
                      last edited by 13 May 2021, 23:57

                      @jsinicro it was moving correctly before, but now when I move +X it moves towards the negative X and when I home it moves towards the +X direction away from the endstops.

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                        o_lampe @jsinicro
                        last edited by 14 May 2021, 07:31

                        @jsinicro
                        There is another way to screw up the printing directions, when you set a custom kinematics model.
                        Do you have such a line in your config.g?

                        Example:

                        M669 K1 X1:1:0:0 Y1:-1:0:1 Z0:0:1:0 V0:0:0:-1
                        

                        The positive and negative signs can change the whole printer behaviour.

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                          Phaedrux Moderator @jsinicro
                          last edited by 14 May 2021, 16:18

                          @jsinicro said in 2nd independent Z-Axis labeled V Homing failed:

                          it was moving correctly before

                          Before what? What changed?

                          What is the kinematic model used? I don't even see a M669 line in your config posted above.

                          Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                            jsinicro @Phaedrux
                            last edited by 14 May 2021, 22:25

                            @phaedrux OK, you are correct, M669. I didn't know about it, I will add that.

                            So I've been doing a little research on the benefits of having individual controlled X and Z axis, however I have not found anything on my original thought on how I wanted the printer to benefit from it. Basically separate extrusion in parallel on the same print. I've not seen any firmware supporting this. Looks like at most I can do 2 separate prints in parallel or have one print with separate color filament.

                            This is my current test config.g, I was able to have X,Y,Z and U homed correctly in the right direction.

                            [0_1621031069933_latest_sys.zip](Uploading 100%)

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                              jsinicro @o_lampe
                              last edited by 15 May 2021, 00:16

                              @o_lampe OK, I do not have a M669, but looks like I need it. Reading up on, trying to understand it. I've actually upgraded to 3.3.RC2 and will test G38.2 and see if that works

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                                jsinicro @o_lampe
                                last edited by 15 May 2021, 00:30

                                @o_lampe Hi, so for a cartesian printer would this be correct:
                                M669 K0 X1:0:0 Y0:1:0 Z0:0:1 U1:0:0 V0:0:1

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                                  jsinicro @jsinicro
                                  last edited by 15 May 2021, 01:04

                                  @jsinicro What is the target position in G38.2 V? P0

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                                    jsinicro @jsinicro
                                    last edited by 15 May 2021, 01:15

                                    @jsinicro OK, I tested it target position basically how much to lower the axis. However the V axis moves down the correct probe deploys and once it hits the bed it retracts and stops moving, but I still get Homing failed.

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                                      jsinicro @jsinicro
                                      last edited by 15 May 2021, 01:21

                                      @jsinicro if I also send the command manually G28 V the axis does move down the probe triggers axis stops but I the error G28 V probe was not triggered during probing move the I get Error Homing failed. But it triggered and stopped moving. What could be going on?

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                                        jsinicro @jsinicro
                                        last edited by 15 May 2021, 01:33

                                        @jsinicro I remember reading something about the probe needing to be on the same board as the motors but that was fixed on 3.3RC2 I thought?

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                                          jsinicro @jsinicro
                                          last edited by 15 May 2021, 02:10

                                          @jsinicro I don't think that's it because the main Z axis has the motors on the main board and the Bltouch is on the expansion board.

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