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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      Where are your endstops, and what sort are they? Photo?

      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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      • frafaundefined
        frafa
        last edited by

        The end stop are hall effect, Logic on 3.3v / v + on 5v
        Photos and tests tomorrow scara is at fablab …

        Edit:
        I need to be able to shift the position after homing to x0 / y0
        Either with M206
        Either with G92 after move on x0/y0
        how to do ?

        Scara with DuetWifi => Scarlette3D
        https://youtu.be/mBF5cO8vGhI

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        • frafaundefined
          frafa
          last edited by

          Hello,

          The X/Y travel limiters do not set to zero Z is ok
          All End-Stops are well detected the engines stop

          My config
          Firmware Name: RepRapFirmware for Duet WiFi
          Firmware Electronics: Duet WiFi 1.0
          Firmware Version: 1.19RC5 (2017-08-06)
          WiFi Server Version: 1.19beta10
          Web Interface Version: 1.17+2

          My file homeall.g

          [[language]]
          ; File homeall.g
          ;G91                ; relative movement
          ;G1 Z4 F100         ; ensure head is clear of the bed
          
          ; Home proximal joint
          G91
          G1 S1 X-200 F3000  ; move proximal joint clockwise by up to 200 degrees until the endstop switch is triggered
          G1 S2 X5          ; move proximal joint anticlockwise by 10 degrees
          G1 S1 X-20 F300    ; move proximal joint slowly to the endstop switch again
          G90                ; absolute movement
          ;G1 S2 X0 F3000     ; move proximal joint to centre of range
          
          ; Home distal joint
          G91                ; relative movement
          G1 S1 Y200 F3000   ; move distal joint clockwise by up to 200 degrees until the endstop switch is triggered
          G1 S2 Y-5         ; move distal joint anticlockwise by 10 degrees
          G1 S1 Y20 F300     ; move distal joint slowly to the endstop switch again
          G90                ; absolute movement
          ;G1 S2 Y0 F3000    ; move distal joint to centre of range
          
          ; Home Z
          G91                ; relative movement
          G1 S1 Z400 F250    ; ensure head is clear of the bed
          ;G1 S2 Z10          ; move proximal joint anticlockwise by 10 degrees
          ;G1 S1 Z-20 F100    ; move proximal joint slowly to the endstop switch again
          G90                ; absolute movement
          
          

          My file config.g

          [[language]]
          ; General preferences
          M111 S0 ; S0 Debugging off S1 ; Debugging on
          G21 ; Work in millimetres
          G90 ; Send absolute coordinates...
          M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
          M555 P2 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like Marlin
          M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
          M208 X300 Y300 Z380 S0 ; Set axis maxima
          
          ; Endstops
          M574 X1 Y1 S0 ; Define active low microswitches
          M574 Z2 S0    ; Define active high microswitches
          
          ; Drives - Axis and motor configuration
          M569 P0 S0                    ; Drive 0 (X) goes forwards
          M569 P1 S1                    ; Drive 1 (Y) goes forwards
          M569 P2 S1                    ; Drive 2 (Z) goes forwards
          M569 P3 S0                    ; Drive 3 (E0) goes forwards
          ;M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
          M350 X256 Y256 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure 256 microstepping with interpolation
          
          ;Calcul Step/mm X/Y (Réduction 80/16) ==> 400*256*(160/16)/360=2844,4444444444444444444444444444
          ;Calcul Step/mm Z   (Réduction 51/1)  ==> 200*256*51/2.0/20=6528
          M92 X2844,4444444444444444444444444444 Y2844,4444444444444444444444444444 Z4080 E550 ; Set steps per mm
          M566 X300 Y300 Z15 E75 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
          M203 X6000 Y6000 Z300 E1500 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
          M201 X300 Y300 Z250 E800 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
          M906 X1400 Y1400 Z1400 E1000 I60 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
          M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
          M669 K4 P200 D200 A-175:175 B-175:175 1:0:0 S150 T0.1 X85.0 Y-150.0; set SCARA kinematics parameters ok S200
          
          

          Upload video in progress catastrophic connection to fablab …

          Scara with DuetWifi => Scarlette3D
          https://youtu.be/mBF5cO8vGhI

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          • frafaundefined
            frafa
            last edited by

            Video
            http://dl.free.fr/jhn5CLUfH

            Scara with DuetWifi => Scarlette3D
            https://youtu.be/mBF5cO8vGhI

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            • frafaundefined
              frafa
              last edited by

              if i send

              [[language]]
              SENDING:G28 X0
              Homing file homeproximal.g not found
              
              
              [[language]]
              SENDING:G28 Y0
              Homing file homedistal.g not found
              
              

              poroblem is here ?

              Scara with DuetWifi => Scarlette3D
              https://youtu.be/mBF5cO8vGhI

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators
                last edited by

                I've just corrected the wiki page about configuring a SCARA printer. The proximal joint and distal joint homing files are called homeproximal.g and homedistal.g, not homep.g and homed.g as I documented originally.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                • frafaundefined
                  frafa
                  last edited by

                  Hi

                  Added files
                  same problem G28 wont reset coordonate X/Y (Z ok)
                  position is ok motor stop but X/Y Does not go to zero

                  see video
                  http://dl.free.fr/jhn5CLUfH

                  Scara with DuetWifi => Scarlette3D
                  https://youtu.be/mBF5cO8vGhI

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                  • frafaundefined
                    frafa
                    last edited by

                    if i test just

                    [[language]]
                    G1 S1 X-200 F3000
                    
                    ```move ok
                    stop position ok
                    but not Zero coordonate ….

                    Scara with DuetWifi => Scarlette3D
                    https://youtu.be/mBF5cO8vGhI

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                    • number40fanundefined
                      number40fan
                      last edited by

                      Nvm, got the video to finally download.

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                      • frafaundefined
                        frafa
                        last edited by

                        Hi

                        [[language]]
                        G1 S1 X-200 F3000
                        
                        ```Wont reset zero coordonate, Bug ?

                        Scara with DuetWifi => Scarlette3D
                        https://youtu.be/mBF5cO8vGhI

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by

                          @frafa:

                          I need to be able to shift the position after homing to x0 / y0
                          Either with M206
                          Either with G92 after move on x0/y0
                          how to do ?

                          To shift the X=0 Y=0 point:

                          1. Make sure that you have set the arm angle limits in the M669 command P and D parameters accurately, so that when you home the arms the homing switches trigger at those angles.

                          2. To verify this, after homing, send G0 X0 Y0 S2 F2000. This will send both arms to zero angle. Check that both arms are pointing along the direction that you have chosen for the X axis. Note: The "arms" are the lines from the proximal joint to the distal joint, and from the distal joint to the nozzle. These are the lines that must both point along the X axis at zero angle. If you have joints and/or the nozzle offset to one side from the physical arm, then the physical arm will not point along the X axis.

                          3. The X and Y parameters in the M669 command specify the X and Y offsets of (0,0) from the location of the distal joint. If you send G0 X0 Y0 F2000 (without the S2 modifier) then it will go to that position. You can put this command at the end of your homeall.g file if you wish. If this doesn't send the head to where you want X0 Y0, and step #2 above worked correctly, then you need to adjust the X and/or Y parameters.

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                          • frafaundefined
                            frafa
                            last edited by

                            Hello
                            Sorry but I do not understand …

                            @dc42:

                            1. Make sure that you have set the arm angle limits in the M669 command P and D parameters accurately, so that when you home the arms the homing switches trigger at those angles.

                            M669 P and D commands are the lengths of the arms?
                            You are talking about Annn: mmm and Bnnn: mmm?

                            Is it possible that you give me the approximate values (aaa … bbb) by looking at my schema as I understand the sense of the measurement of angles? compared to what ?

                            M669 K4 P200 D200 A??? B??? 1:0:0 S150 T0.1 X65.0 Y-150.0; set SCARA kinematics parameters ok S200

                            Scara with DuetWifi => Scarlette3D
                            https://youtu.be/mBF5cO8vGhI

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              I find it easier to understand if I rotate that diagram by 180 degrees so that +X is to the right and +Y is up.

                              If the diagram shows the arms in the homed position (i.e. both arm joint microswitches triggered), then the homing position of the proximal joint is about -120 degrees. So your P parameter should be -120:xxx where xxx is the maximum angle it can rotate anticlockwise relative to the X axis.

                              The distal joint appears to me to be at an angle of approximately +150 degrees relative to the proximal arm. So the D parameter should be -yyy:150 where yyy is the maximum angle it can reach clockwise relative to the proximal arm.

                              The proximal arm homes fully clockwise (bottom end of its range) whereas the distal arm homes fully anticlockwise (top end of its range). So your M574 X and Y parameters need to be X1 Y2.

                              See the expanded calibration section at https://duet3d.com/wiki/Configuring_RepRapFirmware_for_a_SCARA_printer#Calibration.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • frafaundefined
                                frafa
                                last edited by

                                Hello
                                I do not understand why you talk about P and D
                                P and D are the length of the arms?

                                Tonight we were 4 people at the fablab to try to understand
                                Not successful …
                                I rework on scara Monday

                                Scara with DuetWifi => Scarlette3D
                                https://youtu.be/mBF5cO8vGhI

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                                • number40fanundefined
                                  number40fan
                                  last edited by


                                  upload photos

                                  Delete if this is of no help.

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                                  • dc42undefined
                                    dc42 administrators
                                    last edited by

                                    @frafa:

                                    Hello
                                    I do not understand why you talk about P and D
                                    P and D are the length of the arms?

                                    Tonight we were 4 people at the fablab to try to understand
                                    Not successful …
                                    I rework on scara Monday

                                    I am sorry, you are right, I should have said A and B, not P and D.

                                    I have a SCARA printer now and I expect to convert it to Duet electronics next week.

                                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                    • frafaundefined
                                      frafa
                                      last edited by

                                      Hello

                                      Thanks to you two for the help provided 🙂

                                      Monday I retest the homing

                                      Impatient to see your scara !

                                      Scara with DuetWifi => Scarlette3D
                                      https://youtu.be/mBF5cO8vGhI

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                                      • frafaundefined
                                        frafa
                                        last edited by

                                        Hello

                                        inverted Endstop on y2
                                        Finally i have homigs that work 🙂

                                        Calibration is complicated it would be nice to think a more simple mode,
                                        It is easy to have precisely the values of X and Y in M669
                                        On the other hand, finding the values A and B is difficult.

                                        For example, g28 moves to endstop position,
                                        after we move with G1 x / y precisely to real x0/y0
                                        And with a command define A and B (ex: g92 x0 y0), possible?

                                        Possible to forbid z + if limit switch is activated, how to do?

                                        I want to test your IR sensor, offsets are managed on scara ?
                                        https://duet3d.com/wiki/Configuring_RepRapFirmware_for_a_Cartesian_printer#Z_probe_section

                                        Scara with DuetWifi => Scarlette3D
                                        https://youtu.be/mBF5cO8vGhI

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                                        • dc42undefined
                                          dc42 administrators
                                          last edited by

                                          I'm glad you got it working.

                                          The IR sensor is managed on SCARA exactly as for other kinematics. See the Testing and Commissioning section of https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com/mini-height-sensor-board/.

                                          Once the printer has been Z homed, the soft endstop at the Z height configured in your M208 command will be enforced.

                                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                          • frafaundefined
                                            frafa
                                            last edited by

                                            Ordered on duet3d.com
                                            IR Probe
                                            e3d PT100 Sensor
                                            PT100 Daughter Board
                                            Thanks for all 🙂

                                            Scara with DuetWifi => Scarlette3D
                                            https://youtu.be/mBF5cO8vGhI

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