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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
      last edited by Phaedrux

      @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

      Mesh is set through ui to -100 to 100 on x and y with 100 mm spacing.

      Yet your config has M557 R400 S200.

      Can you send M557 in the gcode console and see what it reports back?

      I'm not familiar enough with hang printers to know if it uses a delta style radius or a grid style like a cartesian.

      You might also be the first person doing mesh compensation with a hand printer on 3.3+SBC.

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      • Shinomoriundefined
        Shinomori @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux
        m557
        Grid: X-100.0:100.0, Y-100.0:100.0, radius -1.0, X spacing 100.0, Y spacing 100.0, 9 points

        I am also not sure which mesh style is correct. The build area ends up being circular which is why I have a large radius mesh in the config. I am setting a smaller one with fewer points on the web ui for testing and it asks for grid style coords.
        With the older FW it would run through the points with either radius or grid.

        I suspect there are alot of firsts on this build. Unfortunately I haven't learned how to dig through the git or firmware to figure out what is happening underneath myself so I really appreciate the help.

        So on interesting thing happening that I don't know what to make of. If I set the height with some paper and then do a g92 to set zeros. I can move the print head all over 200-300 mm in all directions and then send it back to zero and the tension on the paper hasn't changed. If I do a G30, then try to go to Z0. It is over half mm too low.

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator
          last edited by Phaedrux

          Can you send G31 and see what it says? I don't see one in your config.g so I think it's using default values which would explain the differences when using G30. This might also be what is messing up the G29 since it uses it as well.

          I suggest you add a G31 command to your config below the M558 for the probe definition.

          G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0 should do it since you're using the nozzle tip and manual probing.

          You can also check for syntax errors in your config with M98 P"config.g"

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          • Shinomoriundefined
            Shinomori @Phaedrux
            last edited by

            @phaedrux
            Ok updated config with g31.

            G30 now ends up with good spacing afterwards. Good call.

            M98 returns no errors. G29 still returns error for all points:
            Warning: Skipping grid point X=100.0, Y=100.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

            Updated config.g:
            ; General preferences
            G91 ; send relative coordinates...
            M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
            M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

            ; Drives
            M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
            M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
            M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
            M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
            M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
            M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
            M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
            M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
            M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
            M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
            M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
            M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
            M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

            ; Axis Limits
            M208 Z-05 S1 ; set axis minima
            M208 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

            ; Endstops
            ; WARNING: No endstops configured

            ; Z-Probe
            M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
            G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0
            ;M557 R400 S200
            M557 X-100:100 Y-100:100 S100 ; define mesh grid

            ; Heaters
            M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
            M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
            M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
            M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
            M140 H-1

            ; Fans
            M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
            M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
            M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
            M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

            ; Tools
            M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
            G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

            ; Custom settings are not defined
            M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
            ; Miscellaneous
            M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
            T0 ; select first tool

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @Shinomori
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              @shinomori

              I don't see where you specify M208 for X and Y.

              The error is because the probe cannot reach the XY position as it is outside of the min/max for X and/or Y.

              Frederick

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • Shinomoriundefined
                Shinomori @fcwilt
                last edited by

                @fcwilt
                I was just wondering if that might be it. Thanks!

                Is there a way to set Radial limits instead of grid?

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                • Shinomoriundefined
                  Shinomori @Shinomori
                  last edited by

                  @shinomori
                  Ok added M208.

                  Still getting the error when running g29. M98 is good.

                  Config:
                  ; General preferences
                  G91 ; send relative coordinates...
                  M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                  M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

                  ; Drives
                  M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                  M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                  M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                  M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                  M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
                  M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
                  M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
                  M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                  M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
                  M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                  M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                  M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                  M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                  M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                  ; Axis Limits
                  M208 X-800 Y-800 Z-05 S1 ; set axis minima
                  M208 X800 Y800 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

                  ; Endstops
                  ; WARNING: No endstops configured

                  ; Z-Probe
                  M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                  G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0
                  ;M557 R400 S200
                  M557 X-100:100 Y-100:100 S100 ; define mesh grid

                  ; Heaters
                  M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
                  M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
                  M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
                  M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                  M140 H-1

                  ; Fans
                  M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                  M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                  M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                  M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                  ; Tools
                  M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                  G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                  ; Custom settings are not defined
                  M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
                  ; Miscellaneous
                  M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                  T0 ; select first tool

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator
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                    I think if you want to use radial limits then don't specify a M208 for XY. I don't think they have limits other than Z set for a delta. I assume that if you set a square limit range in XY you'd either have the corners protrude into areas that the effector can't reach, or you would have to keep the limits within the reachable radius and you'd loose some travel.

                    Then for your M557 just use the radius instead of a grid.

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @Shinomori
                      last edited by

                      @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                      @fcwilt
                      I was just wondering if that might be it. Thanks!

                      Is there a way to set Radial limits instead of grid?

                      So a hang printer is limited to a round area like a Delta?

                      For a delta there is a M665 command somewhere which specifies, among other things, the delta radius.

                      I would think there would be some command to specify that radius for a hang printer.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • fcwiltundefined
                        fcwilt @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @phaedrux said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                        I think if you want to use radial limits then don't specify a M208 for XY. I don't think they have limits other than Z set for a delta. I assume that if you set a square limit range in XY you'd either have the corners protrude into areas that the effector can't reach, or you would have to keep the limits within the reachable radius and you'd loose some travel.

                        Then for your M557 just use the radius instead of a grid.

                        Is there no command for a hang printer like M665 for a delta?

                        Frederick

                        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
                          last edited by

                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareHangprinter

                          The printable radius for a hang printer is set in M669 P. So a bit different than delta.

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                          • Shinomoriundefined
                            Shinomori @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @phaedrux
                            Yeah the radius is in the M669 command which seems to be the same as the M665 for delta.

                            But either way with or without X Y limits in the M208 it still doesn't want to manually probe the points with G29.

                            We do plan on getting some type of probe eventually, but the budget makers want to see it using a mesh first. We also are looking at different probe options between a physical sensor or a laser of some sort.

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                            • fcwiltundefined
                              fcwilt @Phaedrux
                              last edited by

                              @phaedrux said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareHangprinter

                              The printable radius for a hang printer is set in M669 P. So a bit different than delta.

                              I cannot find that in the "gcode dictionary".

                              It lists the type (hang printer) for M669 but I cannot find the other values for that type.

                              Frederick

                              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                              • Phaedruxundefined
                                Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
                                last edited by

                                @fcwilt It's all in the link for the hang printer wiki.

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                                • Phaedruxundefined
                                  Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
                                  last edited by

                                  @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                  But either way with or without X Y limits in the M208 it still doesn't want to manually probe the points with G29.

                                  Try to avoid using the GUI to set the spacing etc, just send the M557 R S command from the console.

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @Phaedrux
                                    last edited by

                                    @phaedrux said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                    @fcwilt It's all in the link for the hang printer wiki.

                                    Found it.

                                    Shouldn't the items related to M669 also be in the gcode dictionary along with all the other types?

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • Shinomoriundefined
                                      Shinomori @Phaedrux
                                      last edited by

                                      @phaedrux
                                      Tried changing the to the Radius one.

                                      M98 shows no errors.

                                      m557
                                      Grid: X-200.0:200.1, Y-200.0:200.1, radius 400.0, X spacing 200.0, Y spacing 200.0, 9 points

                                      G30 works. G29 still throws the:
                                      Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

                                      Config.g:
                                      ; General preferences
                                      G91 ; send relative coordinates...
                                      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                      M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

                                      ; Drives
                                      M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                      M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                      M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                                      M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                                      M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
                                      M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
                                      M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
                                      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                      M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
                                      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                      M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                      M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                      ; Axis Limits
                                      M208 Z-05 S1 ; set axis minima
                                      M208 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                      ; Endstops
                                      ; WARNING: No endstops configured

                                      ; Z-Probe
                                      M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                      G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0
                                      M557 R400 S200
                                      ;M557 X-100:100 Y-100:100 S100 ; define mesh grid

                                      ; Heaters
                                      M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
                                      M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
                                      M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
                                      M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                      M140 H-1

                                      ; Fans
                                      M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                                      M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                      M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                                      M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                                      ; Tools
                                      M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
                                      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                      ; Custom settings are not defined
                                      M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
                                      ; Miscellaneous
                                      M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                      T0 ; select first tool

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                                      • Phaedruxundefined
                                        Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
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                                        @fcwilt Yes. 😉

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
                                          last edited by

                                          @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                          m557
                                          Grid: X-200.0:200.1, Y-200.0:200.1, radius 400.0, X spacing 200.0, Y spacing 200.0, 9 points
                                          G30 works. G29 still throws the:
                                          Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

                                          Alright. I'll have to get DC42 to take a look. It may be a bug.

                                          At this point it would be helpful to be able to test in standalone mode so that we could narrow down if the problem is with the firmware or with DSF on the Pi.

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                                          • Shinomoriundefined
                                            Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                                            @phaedrux
                                            That would be with direct USB connection?
                                            Or is there a way to do it direct with network cable?

                                            Mounted on the ceiling connecting through wire with laptop is a challenge. Our print area takes up a 13ftx13ft space.

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