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    • Phaedruxundefined
      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by Phaedrux

      Can you send G31 and see what it says? I don't see one in your config.g so I think it's using default values which would explain the differences when using G30. This might also be what is messing up the G29 since it uses it as well.

      I suggest you add a G31 command to your config below the M558 for the probe definition.

      G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0 should do it since you're using the nozzle tip and manual probing.

      You can also check for syntax errors in your config with M98 P"config.g"

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      • Shinomoriundefined
        Shinomori @Phaedrux
        last edited by

        @phaedrux
        Ok updated config with g31.

        G30 now ends up with good spacing afterwards. Good call.

        M98 returns no errors. G29 still returns error for all points:
        Warning: Skipping grid point X=100.0, Y=100.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

        Updated config.g:
        ; General preferences
        G91 ; send relative coordinates...
        M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
        M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

        ; Drives
        M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
        M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
        M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
        M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
        M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
        M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
        M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
        M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
        M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

        ; Axis Limits
        M208 Z-05 S1 ; set axis minima
        M208 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

        ; Endstops
        ; WARNING: No endstops configured

        ; Z-Probe
        M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
        G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0
        ;M557 R400 S200
        M557 X-100:100 Y-100:100 S100 ; define mesh grid

        ; Heaters
        M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
        M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
        M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
        M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
        M140 H-1

        ; Fans
        M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
        M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
        M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
        M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

        ; Tools
        M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
        G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
        G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

        ; Custom settings are not defined
        M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
        ; Miscellaneous
        M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
        T0 ; select first tool

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @Shinomori
          last edited by

          @shinomori

          I don't see where you specify M208 for X and Y.

          The error is because the probe cannot reach the XY position as it is outside of the min/max for X and/or Y.

          Frederick

          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • Shinomoriundefined
            Shinomori @fcwilt
            last edited by

            @fcwilt
            I was just wondering if that might be it. Thanks!

            Is there a way to set Radial limits instead of grid?

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            • Shinomoriundefined
              Shinomori @Shinomori
              last edited by

              @shinomori
              Ok added M208.

              Still getting the error when running g29. M98 is good.

              Config:
              ; General preferences
              G91 ; send relative coordinates...
              M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
              M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

              ; Drives
              M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
              M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
              M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
              M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
              M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
              M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
              M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
              M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
              M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
              M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
              M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
              M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

              ; Axis Limits
              M208 X-800 Y-800 Z-05 S1 ; set axis minima
              M208 X800 Y800 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

              ; Endstops
              ; WARNING: No endstops configured

              ; Z-Probe
              M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
              G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0
              ;M557 R400 S200
              M557 X-100:100 Y-100:100 S100 ; define mesh grid

              ; Heaters
              M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
              M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
              M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
              M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
              M140 H-1

              ; Fans
              M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
              M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
              M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
              M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

              ; Tools
              M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
              G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

              ; Custom settings are not defined
              M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
              ; Miscellaneous
              M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
              T0 ; select first tool

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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
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                I think if you want to use radial limits then don't specify a M208 for XY. I don't think they have limits other than Z set for a delta. I assume that if you set a square limit range in XY you'd either have the corners protrude into areas that the effector can't reach, or you would have to keep the limits within the reachable radius and you'd loose some travel.

                Then for your M557 just use the radius instead of a grid.

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @Shinomori
                  last edited by

                  @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                  @fcwilt
                  I was just wondering if that might be it. Thanks!

                  Is there a way to set Radial limits instead of grid?

                  So a hang printer is limited to a round area like a Delta?

                  For a delta there is a M665 command somewhere which specifies, among other things, the delta radius.

                  I would think there would be some command to specify that radius for a hang printer.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • fcwiltundefined
                    fcwilt @Phaedrux
                    last edited by

                    @phaedrux said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                    I think if you want to use radial limits then don't specify a M208 for XY. I don't think they have limits other than Z set for a delta. I assume that if you set a square limit range in XY you'd either have the corners protrude into areas that the effector can't reach, or you would have to keep the limits within the reachable radius and you'd loose some travel.

                    Then for your M557 just use the radius instead of a grid.

                    Is there no command for a hang printer like M665 for a delta?

                    Frederick

                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareHangprinter

                      The printable radius for a hang printer is set in M669 P. So a bit different than delta.

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                      • Shinomoriundefined
                        Shinomori @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @phaedrux
                        Yeah the radius is in the M669 command which seems to be the same as the M665 for delta.

                        But either way with or without X Y limits in the M208 it still doesn't want to manually probe the points with G29.

                        We do plan on getting some type of probe eventually, but the budget makers want to see it using a mesh first. We also are looking at different probe options between a physical sensor or a laser of some sort.

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @Phaedrux
                          last edited by

                          @phaedrux said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareHangprinter

                          The printable radius for a hang printer is set in M669 P. So a bit different than delta.

                          I cannot find that in the "gcode dictionary".

                          It lists the type (hang printer) for M669 but I cannot find the other values for that type.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
                            last edited by

                            @fcwilt It's all in the link for the hang printer wiki.

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
                              last edited by

                              @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                              But either way with or without X Y limits in the M208 it still doesn't want to manually probe the points with G29.

                              Try to avoid using the GUI to set the spacing etc, just send the M557 R S command from the console.

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @Phaedrux
                                last edited by

                                @phaedrux said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                @fcwilt It's all in the link for the hang printer wiki.

                                Found it.

                                Shouldn't the items related to M669 also be in the gcode dictionary along with all the other types?

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • Shinomoriundefined
                                  Shinomori @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by

                                  @phaedrux
                                  Tried changing the to the Radius one.

                                  M98 shows no errors.

                                  m557
                                  Grid: X-200.0:200.1, Y-200.0:200.1, radius 400.0, X spacing 200.0, Y spacing 200.0, 9 points

                                  G30 works. G29 still throws the:
                                  Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

                                  Config.g:
                                  ; General preferences
                                  G91 ; send relative coordinates...
                                  M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                  M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

                                  ; Drives
                                  M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                  M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                  M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                                  M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                                  M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
                                  M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
                                  M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
                                  M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                  M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
                                  M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                  M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                  M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                  M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                  M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                  ; Axis Limits
                                  M208 Z-05 S1 ; set axis minima
                                  M208 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                  ; Endstops
                                  ; WARNING: No endstops configured

                                  ; Z-Probe
                                  M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                  G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0
                                  M557 R400 S200
                                  ;M557 X-100:100 Y-100:100 S100 ; define mesh grid

                                  ; Heaters
                                  M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
                                  M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
                                  M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
                                  M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                  M140 H-1

                                  ; Fans
                                  M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                                  M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                  M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                                  M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                                  ; Tools
                                  M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
                                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                  G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                  ; Custom settings are not defined
                                  M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
                                  ; Miscellaneous
                                  M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                  T0 ; select first tool

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                                  • Phaedruxundefined
                                    Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
                                    last edited by

                                    @fcwilt Yes. 😉

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
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                                      @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                      m557
                                      Grid: X-200.0:200.1, Y-200.0:200.1, radius 400.0, X spacing 200.0, Y spacing 200.0, 9 points
                                      G30 works. G29 still throws the:
                                      Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

                                      Alright. I'll have to get DC42 to take a look. It may be a bug.

                                      At this point it would be helpful to be able to test in standalone mode so that we could narrow down if the problem is with the firmware or with DSF on the Pi.

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                                      • Shinomoriundefined
                                        Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                                        @phaedrux
                                        That would be with direct USB connection?
                                        Or is there a way to do it direct with network cable?

                                        Mounted on the ceiling connecting through wire with laptop is a challenge. Our print area takes up a 13ftx13ft space.

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          Standalone mode means that the Duet has a direct network connection and an SD card is needed in the Duet with your config files and the files for DWC. The Pi isn't used in this mode. No direct USB connection, but the Duet3 requires ethernet. So that may be a problem if you were depending on wifi for the Pi.

                                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Running_in_standalone_mode

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                                          • Shinomoriundefined
                                            Shinomori @Phaedrux
                                            last edited by

                                            @phaedrux
                                            Yeah we are relying on the PI.

                                            We have no networking in this building yet. The pi is connecting to a wifi hotspot on my phone and I'm using that to talk to the printer.

                                            If I can use a network cable to go direct to my laptop I can probably make it work.

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