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    fcwilt @Phaedrux
    last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 21:06

    @phaedrux said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

    @fcwilt It's all in the link for the hang printer wiki.

    Found it.

    Shouldn't the items related to M669 also be in the gcode dictionary along with all the other types?

    Frederick

    Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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      Shinomori @Phaedrux
      last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 21:10

      @phaedrux
      Tried changing the to the Radius one.

      M98 shows no errors.

      m557
      Grid: X-200.0:200.1, Y-200.0:200.1, radius 400.0, X spacing 200.0, Y spacing 200.0, 9 points

      G30 works. G29 still throws the:
      Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

      Config.g:
      ; General preferences
      G91 ; send relative coordinates...
      M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
      M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

      ; Drives
      M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
      M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
      M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
      M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
      M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
      M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
      M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
      M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
      M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
      M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
      M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
      M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
      M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
      M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

      ; Axis Limits
      M208 Z-05 S1 ; set axis minima
      M208 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

      ; Endstops
      ; WARNING: No endstops configured

      ; Z-Probe
      M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
      G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0
      M557 R400 S200
      ;M557 X-100:100 Y-100:100 S100 ; define mesh grid

      ; Heaters
      M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
      M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
      M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
      M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
      M140 H-1

      ; Fans
      M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
      M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
      M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
      M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

      ; Tools
      M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
      G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
      G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

      ; Custom settings are not defined
      M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
      ; Miscellaneous
      M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
      T0 ; select first tool

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        Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
        last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 21:10

        @fcwilt Yes. 😉

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          Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
          last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 21:12

          @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

          m557
          Grid: X-200.0:200.1, Y-200.0:200.1, radius 400.0, X spacing 200.0, Y spacing 200.0, 9 points
          G30 works. G29 still throws the:
          Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

          Alright. I'll have to get DC42 to take a look. It may be a bug.

          At this point it would be helpful to be able to test in standalone mode so that we could narrow down if the problem is with the firmware or with DSF on the Pi.

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            Shinomori @Phaedrux
            last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 21:16

            @phaedrux
            That would be with direct USB connection?
            Or is there a way to do it direct with network cable?

            Mounted on the ceiling connecting through wire with laptop is a challenge. Our print area takes up a 13ftx13ft space.

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              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 21:22

              Standalone mode means that the Duet has a direct network connection and an SD card is needed in the Duet with your config files and the files for DWC. The Pi isn't used in this mode. No direct USB connection, but the Duet3 requires ethernet. So that may be a problem if you were depending on wifi for the Pi.

              https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Running_in_standalone_mode

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                Shinomori @Phaedrux
                last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 21:25

                @phaedrux
                Yeah we are relying on the PI.

                We have no networking in this building yet. The pi is connecting to a wifi hotspot on my phone and I'm using that to talk to the printer.

                If I can use a network cable to go direct to my laptop I can probably make it work.

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                  Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
                  last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 21:29

                  @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                  If I can use a network cable to go direct to my laptop I can probably make it work.

                  Yes if you can route the cable that would work. You'd need to manually set an IP address for the Duet in config.g and then manually set an IP address on your laptop. Both IP addresses must be in the same subnet. Then you can connect to DWC via the Duet IP.

                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Setting_up_networking_on_Duet#Section_Duet_2_Ethernet_Duet_2_Maestro_and_Duet_3_with_Ethernet_in_standalone_mode

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                    Shinomori @Phaedrux
                    last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 21:33

                    @phaedrux
                    Sounds good. Thanks. I'll get a long network cable next time I come down here. So if we need to go direct I'll be able to. Look forward to seeing what DC42 thinks. Thanks again for the help.

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                      fcwilt @Shinomori
                      last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 21:35

                      @shinomori

                      Hi,

                      Just out of curiosity what is the "raison d'etre" for a hang printer?

                      Thanks.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                        Shinomori @fcwilt
                        last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 21:44

                        @fcwilt We are working with a group that is wanting to print building sized objects with a custom material, but the printer needs to be easy to transport. I know of no other printer that can do such a large print volume with so few materials for the printer itself. So we proposed a hangprinter This is the first phase proof of concept. If it works we'll be moving to a v4 hangprinter with a pellet extruder. This is why the mesh level needs to be working. We are currently trying to print on 4x8 sheets and will eventually be printing straight to the ground.

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                          fcwilt @Shinomori
                          last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 21:46

                          @shinomori

                          Interesting.

                          Hope it works out.

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                            Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
                            last edited by 28 Jun 2021, 21:52

                            @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                            M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000

                            In case you're still at the printer to test.. Would you be able to try increasing the dive height? M558 H5 to H15? I just noticed that your M208 Z minima is -5mm which is the same as your dive height.

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                              Shinomori @Phaedrux
                              last edited by 8 Jul 2021, 02:17

                              @phaedrux
                              We'll probably be over later this week to work on it some more. I'll try setting the dive height larger than the z minima. And the other way around. It is interesting that probing one point manually currently works. Used to establish Z0 to before trying to create a mesh level. It only fails when trying to do the mesh. So it seems there is something odd there. It still does load the old mesh file from the last time I ran it before doing all the updates.

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                                Phaedrux Moderator
                                last edited by 8 Jul 2021, 02:38

                                Can you post the heightmap.csv file from the previously saved G29 run?

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                                  Shinomori @Phaedrux
                                  last edited by 12 Jul 2021, 17:54

                                  @phaedrux
                                  Ok I tried:
                                  M558 P0 H15 F120 T6000
                                  M208 Z-5 S1

                                  and:
                                  M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000
                                  M208 Z-15 S1

                                  In both cases:
                                  I ran G28 X0 Y0 Z0 E0 U0 then G30. The manual probing screen came up but the print head didn't move after setting height it moved up the dive height in M558. The running G29 this came up:

                                  7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                  7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                  7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=-200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                  7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=-200.0, Y=0.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                  7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=0.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                  7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=0.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                  7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=-200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                  7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=-200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                  7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=-200.0, Y=-200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                  7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM G29
                                  Error: Too few points probed

                                  Here is the config:
                                  ; General preferences
                                  G91 ; send relative coordinates...
                                  M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                  M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

                                  ; Drives
                                  M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                  M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                  M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                                  M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                                  M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
                                  M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
                                  M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
                                  M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                  M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
                                  M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                  M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                  M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                  M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                  M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                  ; Axis Limits
                                  M208 Z-15 S1 ; set axis minima
                                  M208 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                  ; Endstops
                                  ; WARNING: No endstops configured

                                  ; Z-Probe
                                  M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                  G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0
                                  M557 R400 S200
                                  ;M557 X-100:100 Y-100:100 S100 ; define mesh grid

                                  ; Heaters
                                  M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
                                  M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
                                  M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
                                  M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                  M140 H-1

                                  ; Fans
                                  M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                                  M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                  M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                                  M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                                  ; Tools
                                  M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
                                  G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                  G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                  ; Custom settings are not defined
                                  M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
                                  ; Miscellaneous
                                  M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                  T0 ; select first tool

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                                    Shinomori @Shinomori
                                    last edited by 12 Jul 2021, 17:54

                                    @shinomori
                                    Here is the height map from the old config.

                                    heightmap.csv

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                                      Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
                                      last edited by 12 Jul 2021, 20:47

                                      @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                      M558 P0 H15 F120 T6000
                                      M208 Z-5 S1

                                      This would be preferable.

                                      @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                      then G30. The manual probing screen came up but the print head didn't move after setting height it moved up the dive height in M558.

                                      So when G30 is sent with M558 P0 set, there should be a prompt pop up to allow you to jog the Z axis up and down. Did that happen? Are you saying the movement buttons did not respond?

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                                        Shinomori @Phaedrux
                                        last edited by 12 Jul 2021, 21:43

                                        @phaedrux
                                        When sending the G30 command the the print head doesn't move and the ui for moving the axis comes up. The buttons work to move the print head. I use those buttons to set the height and hit ok. Then the head moves up to the dive height.

                                        When sending G29 there is no motion only errors.

                                        When it was working it would move to the location for each probe at z=H parameter in M558.

                                        I wonder if the lack of motion at the start of G30 is an indication of what is causing the G29 to fail?

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                                          Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
                                          last edited by 12 Jul 2021, 21:59

                                          @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                          When sending the G30 command the the print head doesn't move and the ui for moving the axis comes up. The buttons work to move the print head. I use those buttons to set the height and hit ok. Then the head moves up to the dive height.

                                          That's exactly how M558 P0 and manual probing works. You have to manually move the nozzle to touch the bed. So G30 sounds like it's working.

                                          Once you've done that G30 and set the Z0 position are you able to jog the print head around manually?

                                          With M558 P0 set, using G29 should indeed prompt you to jog down at each point.

                                          And just to confirm, that's with this set?

                                          M558 P0 H15 F120 T6000
                                          M208 Z-5 S1

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