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    • Shinomoriundefined
      Shinomori @Phaedrux
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      @phaedrux
      Yeah the radius is in the M669 command which seems to be the same as the M665 for delta.

      But either way with or without X Y limits in the M208 it still doesn't want to manually probe the points with G29.

      We do plan on getting some type of probe eventually, but the budget makers want to see it using a mesh first. We also are looking at different probe options between a physical sensor or a laser of some sort.

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt @Phaedrux
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        @phaedrux said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/ConfiguringRepRapFirmwareHangprinter

        The printable radius for a hang printer is set in M669 P. So a bit different than delta.

        I cannot find that in the "gcode dictionary".

        It lists the type (hang printer) for M669 but I cannot find the other values for that type.

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • Phaedruxundefined
          Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt It's all in the link for the hang printer wiki.

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
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            @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

            But either way with or without X Y limits in the M208 it still doesn't want to manually probe the points with G29.

            Try to avoid using the GUI to set the spacing etc, just send the M557 R S command from the console.

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @Phaedrux
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              @phaedrux said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

              @fcwilt It's all in the link for the hang printer wiki.

              Found it.

              Shouldn't the items related to M669 also be in the gcode dictionary along with all the other types?

              Frederick

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • Shinomoriundefined
                Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                @phaedrux
                Tried changing the to the Radius one.

                M98 shows no errors.

                m557
                Grid: X-200.0:200.1, Y-200.0:200.1, radius 400.0, X spacing 200.0, Y spacing 200.0, 9 points

                G30 works. G29 still throws the:
                Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

                Config.g:
                ; General preferences
                G91 ; send relative coordinates...
                M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

                ; Drives
                M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
                M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
                M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
                M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
                M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                ; Axis Limits
                M208 Z-05 S1 ; set axis minima
                M208 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

                ; Endstops
                ; WARNING: No endstops configured

                ; Z-Probe
                M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0
                M557 R400 S200
                ;M557 X-100:100 Y-100:100 S100 ; define mesh grid

                ; Heaters
                M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
                M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
                M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
                M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                M140 H-1

                ; Fans
                M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                ; Tools
                M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
                G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                ; Custom settings are not defined
                M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
                ; Miscellaneous
                M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                T0 ; select first tool

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                • Phaedruxundefined
                  Phaedrux Moderator @fcwilt
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                  @fcwilt Yes. 😉

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
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                    @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                    m557
                    Grid: X-200.0:200.1, Y-200.0:200.1, radius 400.0, X spacing 200.0, Y spacing 200.0, 9 points
                    G30 works. G29 still throws the:
                    Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it

                    Alright. I'll have to get DC42 to take a look. It may be a bug.

                    At this point it would be helpful to be able to test in standalone mode so that we could narrow down if the problem is with the firmware or with DSF on the Pi.

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                    • Shinomoriundefined
                      Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                      @phaedrux
                      That would be with direct USB connection?
                      Or is there a way to do it direct with network cable?

                      Mounted on the ceiling connecting through wire with laptop is a challenge. Our print area takes up a 13ftx13ft space.

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                      • Phaedruxundefined
                        Phaedrux Moderator
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                        Standalone mode means that the Duet has a direct network connection and an SD card is needed in the Duet with your config files and the files for DWC. The Pi isn't used in this mode. No direct USB connection, but the Duet3 requires ethernet. So that may be a problem if you were depending on wifi for the Pi.

                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Getting_Started_With_Duet_3#Section_Running_in_standalone_mode

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                        • Shinomoriundefined
                          Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                          @phaedrux
                          Yeah we are relying on the PI.

                          We have no networking in this building yet. The pi is connecting to a wifi hotspot on my phone and I'm using that to talk to the printer.

                          If I can use a network cable to go direct to my laptop I can probably make it work.

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                          • Phaedruxundefined
                            Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
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                            @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                            If I can use a network cable to go direct to my laptop I can probably make it work.

                            Yes if you can route the cable that would work. You'd need to manually set an IP address for the Duet in config.g and then manually set an IP address on your laptop. Both IP addresses must be in the same subnet. Then you can connect to DWC via the Duet IP.

                            https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Setting_up_networking_on_Duet#Section_Duet_2_Ethernet_Duet_2_Maestro_and_Duet_3_with_Ethernet_in_standalone_mode

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                            • Shinomoriundefined
                              Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                              @phaedrux
                              Sounds good. Thanks. I'll get a long network cable next time I come down here. So if we need to go direct I'll be able to. Look forward to seeing what DC42 thinks. Thanks again for the help.

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                              • fcwiltundefined
                                fcwilt @Shinomori
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                                @shinomori

                                Hi,

                                Just out of curiosity what is the "raison d'etre" for a hang printer?

                                Thanks.

                                Frederick

                                Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                • Shinomoriundefined
                                  Shinomori @fcwilt
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                                  @fcwilt We are working with a group that is wanting to print building sized objects with a custom material, but the printer needs to be easy to transport. I know of no other printer that can do such a large print volume with so few materials for the printer itself. So we proposed a hangprinter This is the first phase proof of concept. If it works we'll be moving to a v4 hangprinter with a pellet extruder. This is why the mesh level needs to be working. We are currently trying to print on 4x8 sheets and will eventually be printing straight to the ground.

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                                  • fcwiltundefined
                                    fcwilt @Shinomori
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                                    @shinomori

                                    Interesting.

                                    Hope it works out.

                                    Frederick

                                    Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                                    • Phaedruxundefined
                                      Phaedrux Moderator @Shinomori
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                                      @shinomori said in Hang printer - Print stops with mesh leveling:

                                      M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000

                                      In case you're still at the printer to test.. Would you be able to try increasing the dive height? M558 H5 to H15? I just noticed that your M208 Z minima is -5mm which is the same as your dive height.

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                                      • Shinomoriundefined
                                        Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                                        @phaedrux
                                        We'll probably be over later this week to work on it some more. I'll try setting the dive height larger than the z minima. And the other way around. It is interesting that probing one point manually currently works. Used to establish Z0 to before trying to create a mesh level. It only fails when trying to do the mesh. So it seems there is something odd there. It still does load the old mesh file from the last time I ran it before doing all the updates.

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                                          Can you post the heightmap.csv file from the previously saved G29 run?

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                                          • Shinomoriundefined
                                            Shinomori @Phaedrux
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                                            @phaedrux
                                            Ok I tried:
                                            M558 P0 H15 F120 T6000
                                            M208 Z-5 S1

                                            and:
                                            M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000
                                            M208 Z-15 S1

                                            In both cases:
                                            I ran G28 X0 Y0 Z0 E0 U0 then G30. The manual probing screen came up but the print head didn't move after setting height it moved up the dive height in M558. The running G29 this came up:

                                            7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                            7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                            7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=-200.0, Y=200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                            7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=-200.0, Y=0.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                            7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=0.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                            7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=0.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                            7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=200.0, Y=-200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                            7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=0.0, Y=-200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                            7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM Warning: Skipping grid point X=-200.0, Y=-200.0 because Z probe cannot reach it
                                            7/12/2021, 12:44:49 PM G29
                                            Error: Too few points probed

                                            Here is the config:
                                            ; General preferences
                                            G91 ; send relative coordinates...
                                            M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                            M550 P"duet3" ; set printer name

                                            ; Drives
                                            M569 P0.0 S0 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
                                            M569 P0.1 S1 ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
                                            M569 P0.2 S0 ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
                                            M569 P0.3 S1 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
                                            M569 P0.4 S0 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards
                                            M584 X0.0 Y0.1 Z0.2 E0.3 U0.4 ; set drive mapping
                                            M669 K6 A0.0:-2265.0:0.0 B1725.0:1100.0:0.0 C-1740.0:1120.0:0.0 D0.0:0.0:2666.0 P1500.0
                                            M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 U16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                                            M92 X92.90 Y92.90 Z92.90 E396.00 U93.00 ; set steps per mm
                                            M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z900.00 E120.00 U900.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                            M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z6000.00 E1200.00 U6000.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                            M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z500.00 E250.00 U500.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                            M906 X1000 Y1000 Z1000 E800 U1000 I60 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                            M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                            ; Axis Limits
                                            M208 Z-15 S1 ; set axis minima
                                            M208 Z1500 S0 ; set axis maxima

                                            ; Endstops
                                            ; WARNING: No endstops configured

                                            ; Z-Probe
                                            M558 P0 H5 F120 T6000; disable Z probe but set dive height, probe speed and travel speed
                                            G31 P500 X0 Y0 Z0
                                            M557 R400 S200
                                            ;M557 X-100:100 Y-100:100 S100 ; define mesh grid

                                            ; Heaters
                                            M308 S0 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp1
                                            M950 H0 C"out1" T0 ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 0
                                            M143 H0 S270 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 270C
                                            M307 H0 B0 S1.00 ; disable bang-bang mode for heater and set PWM limit
                                            M140 H-1

                                            ; Fans
                                            M950 F0 C"out7" Q500 ; create fan 0 on pin out7 and set its frequency
                                            M106 P0 S0 H0 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                            M950 F1 C"out8" Q500 ; create fan 1 on pin out8 and set its frequency
                                            M106 P1 S0 H0 ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned off

                                            ; Tools
                                            M563 P0 S"Extruder" D0.3 H0 F0 ; define tool 0
                                            G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                                            G10 P0 R0 S0 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                            ; Custom settings are not defined
                                            M564 S0 H0 ;allow move without homing
                                            ; Miscellaneous
                                            M501 ; load saved parameters from non-volatile memory
                                            T0 ; select first tool

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