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    • tony449777undefined
      tony449777
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      I am also having a similar problem. I printed one day with my printer and noticed that the temperature trajectory bounced around a lot. Started to print the next day and noticed that after sitting all night and everything settling to room temperature there were major differences between my bed temperature and nozzle temperature. The bed uses a standard glass in cased thermocouple. I am using a PT 100 with daughter board for the hot end. I moved a 100ohm Resistor in place of the PT 100 cartridge and get a reading of -20c. It should’ve been zero.

      Current code :
      Y248)

      ; Heaters
      M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" A"bed_heat" T100000 B3950 R4700 H0 L0 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
      M950 H0 C"bed_heat" T0 ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
      M140 H0 ; Inform the firmware that bed heater 0 uses heater 0
      M143 H0 S120 ; Set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
      M308 S1 P"spi.cs1" Y"rtd-max31865" ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin spi.cs1 (Hotend)
      M950 H1 C"e0_heat" T1 ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
      M143 H1 S320 ; Set temperature limit for heater 1 to 320C
      ;M308 S2 P"duex.e6temp" Y"thermistor" A"keenovo" T100000 B3950 R4700 C7.06E-8 H0 L0 ; Secondary bed thermistor
      M140 S0 R0 ; Standby and initial Temp for bed set to 0 (-273 = "off")
      M308 S10 Y"mcu-temp" A"mcu-temp" ; Display Duet2 CPU temp

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      • Phaedruxundefined
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        @tony449777 Can you check the values of the resistors as mentioned by DC42 above?

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        • tony449777undefined
          tony449777 @Phaedrux
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          @phaedrux

          R1 200.2
          R2 200.2/3

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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @tony449777
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            @tony449777 They appear to be exactly half of what they should be...

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            • tony449777undefined
              tony449777 @Phaedrux
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              @phaedrux I wonder how that could happen? I believe I got this daughterboard from Filastruder. It was purchased a while ago, but never used until this build.

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              • dc42undefined
                dc42 administrators @tony449777
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                @tony449777 the multimeter may give the wrong (lower) resistance readings, depending on what voltage it uses to measure resistance. If it was previously working then the resistors should be OK.

                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                • tony449777undefined
                  tony449777 @dc42
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                  @dc42 I’m using a Fluke. I have 3 others. I’ll try them all. However, how would we ever be able to come up with a reference for resistors if all multimeters give us such a diverse readings?

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                  • tony449777undefined
                    tony449777 @dc42
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                    @dc42 I can’t attach a picture, it will not let me however I can tell you R1 is marked”102” while R2,R3,R4 are all marked “201”

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                    • tony449777undefined
                      tony449777
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                      On my precision bench meter both resistors measure R1-199.50 and R2-199.52

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                      • tony449777undefined
                        tony449777
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                        I also have 3 PT100 cartridges in the same room measuring within 1° of each other. By that I mean looking at a PT 100s resistance table and measuring each one’s resistance, according to the table they are within 1° of each other.

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                        • tony449777undefined
                          tony449777
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                          Also curious, if the channel 1 on the daughter board is “spi.cs1”
                          And you have one daughter board with the two ports, then is the second port for the same card “spi.cs2”?

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                            • dc42undefined
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                              @tony449777 said in PT100 amplifier board - redaings seems to be 30 degrees below:

                              @dc42 I can’t attach a picture, it will not let me however I can tell you R1 is marked”102” while R2,R3,R4 are all marked “201”

                              Why can't you attach a picture?

                              Do both channels give the wrong reading when you connect the 100 ohm resistor to each in turn?

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
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                              • dc42undefined
                                dc42 administrators @tony449777
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                                @tony449777 said in PT100 amplifier board - redaings seems to be 30 degrees below:

                                Also curious, if the channel 1 on the daughter board is “spi.cs1”
                                And you have one daughter board with the two ports, then is the second port for the same card “spi.cs2”?

                                Yes.

                                Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
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                                • tony449777undefined
                                  tony449777 @dc42
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                                  @dc42 yes

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                                  • tony449777undefined
                                    tony449777 @dc42
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                                    @dc42 I’m using the phone application. Every time I try to attach a picture it just says undefined.

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                                    • dc42undefined
                                      dc42 administrators @tony449777
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                                      @tony449777 it's easier from a PC, you can just drag and drop a .jpg file into your post.

                                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                      • tony449777undefined
                                        tony449777 @dc42
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                                        @dc42 Update. Switched out the daughter board for another one I purchased from filastruder and it works fine. It must be the board.

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                                        • Phaedruxundefined
                                          Phaedrux Moderator @tony449777
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                                          @tony449777 said in PT100 amplifier board - redaings seems to be 30 degrees below:

                                          I believe I got this daughterboard from Filastruder. It was purchased a while ago, but never used until this build.

                                          How long is a while ago?

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                                          • c310undefined
                                            c310
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                                            @dc42 my 2nd channel died :I( i will be replaceing the chip, on the way want to check other parts. there are 2 pairs of capacitors - c1/c2 + c5/c6 what its default capacity should be?

                                            also there is small black SMD element in between C1 and R1. what is it? what are the parameters?

                                            many thanks!

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