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    • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
      DIY-O-Sphere @Palgon
      last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

      @palgon said in Dual z Stop and Piezo Bed Level:

      Do you have any tips or a checklist that I should now work through?

      If you have uploaded the complete zip, DWC should be updated.
      If you have access to DWC you can check versions under Setting/General and Machine Specific

      As several commands and files have changed under RRF3 generate a new config under
      https://configtool.reprapfirmware.org

      (UTC+1)

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      • Palgonundefined
        Palgon @DIY-O-Sphere
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        @diy-o-sphere i have created a new rrf3 config i have saved my old one on my pc and on a usb stick so everything should be up to date then and thanks for your quick reply was just unsure since everything is new territory for me

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        • fcwiltundefined
          fcwilt @Palgon
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          @palgon

          Hi,

          Do you have dual Z axis endstop sensors?

          Thanks

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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          • Palgonundefined
            Palgon @fcwilt
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            @fcwilt I use two Z motors on my hevors which are connected on the board at slot Z1(Z2 is plugged with jumpers) and E1 and they both have their own limit switch

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @Palgon
              last edited by

              @palgon

              OK with two Z endstop sensors (or limit switches as you called them) ignore anything you read about homing Z with the Z probe.

              You will be homing with the Z endstop sensors.

              The Z probe will be used for:

              • setting the Z=0 datum - which is needed for the next two items
              • leveling the bed using the two Z steppers
              • creating height maps for use with mesh compensation

              Do you know how to configure for that?

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • Palgonundefined
                Palgon @fcwilt
                last edited by Palgon

                @fcwilt i'm trying to read up on this right now but i'm currently at this report https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Bed_levelling_using_multiple_independent_Z_motors and looking at what i have to do in the bed.g in the config.g i currently only have M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3 and
                M671 X-25:165 Y355:165 S20 inserted further I am not yet
                and i need to somehow integrate the endstop sensors (e1) well my goal is that it stops each axis individually and the piezo then applies the mash

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                • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                  DIY-O-Sphere
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                  @palgon

                  https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Gcode#Section_M574_RepRapFirmware_Num_3
                  Find the example for two Z-motors

                  (UTC+1)

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                  • Palgonundefined
                    Palgon
                    last edited by

                    how is that actually must one under rrf3 also everywhere where a z axis is defined a u axis add or searches the somewhere out for example with m350 /m92 /m201or m208 and can it be that I have the M584 command wrong because in my old M584 XO Y1 Z2:3 U3 E4 is written

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                    • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                      DIY-O-Sphere @Palgon
                      last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                      @palgon
                      Extruder is swaped with 2. motor of Z

                      Edit:
                      M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3
                      should be
                      M584 X0 Y1 Z2:3 E4

                      (UTC+1)

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                      • Palgonundefined
                        Palgon @DIY-O-Sphere
                        last edited by Palgon

                        @diy-o-sphere have a clean cfg on the printer where nothing is difiniert. this I have now copied times and test times edited and this is now the result
                        config.g

                        can the following command actually be inserted under M584 or where must it be inserted M574 Z1 S1 P "io2.in+io3.in" ; Z axis with two motors, individual min endstops, active high

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                        • fcwiltundefined
                          fcwilt @Palgon
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                          @palgon said in Dual z Stop and Piezo Bed Level:

                          how is that actually must one under rrf3 also everywhere where a z axis is defined a u axis add or searches the somewhere out for example with m350 /m92 /m201or m208 and can it be that I have the M584 command wrong because in my old M584 XO Y1 Z2:3 U3 E4 is written

                          Under older versions of the firmware you had to breakout one of the Z steppers as another letter.

                          Now you don't have to do that because the M574 command for the Z axis allows specifying two endstop sensors.

                          My printer controlled by a Duet 2 WiFI/Diuex 5 combo has three Z steppers and this is what the M574 command looks like for the Z axis:

                          M574 Z1 S1 P"!duex.e2stop + !duex.e3stop + !duex.e4stop" ; configure active-high endstop for low  end on Z
                          

                          Frederick

                          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                          • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                            DIY-O-Sphere @Palgon
                            last edited by DIY-O-Sphere

                            @palgon said in Dual z Stop and Piezo Bed Level:

                            config.g

                            Below should be the correct code for limits and endstops but there are to much other issues
                            like
                            M671 missing
                            Wrong declaration of Z-Probe
                            So I also expect issus with the generated files for homing beg.g ...etc.
                            To much to fix by hand....

                            Got through the configurator step by step

                            ; Axis Limits
                            M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                                   ; set axis minima
                            M208 X295 Y295 Z390 S0                             ; set axis maxima
                            
                            ; Endstops
                            M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"                                ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                            M574 Y1 S1 P"ystop"                                ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                            M574 Z1 S1 P"zstop+e0stop"                         ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Z via pin zstop+e0stop
                            

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                            • Palgonundefined
                              Palgon @DIY-O-Sphere
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                              @diy-o-sphere I'm just a newbie when it comes to writing cfg and am today (25 Jul 2021, 17:49) just started with rrf3 and to the z prob entries I have not yet come because it's all very new to me I need longer for. because I have to read everything but thanks for the right end stops and because the printer under 2.05.1 is also only run without sample I wanted to work out the first time again and then teach him how he has to move with the sensor 🙂

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                              • DIY-O-Sphereundefined
                                DIY-O-Sphere @Palgon
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                                @palgon

                                If you want to do it step by step, that's fine, I just wondered.
                                I have also done the conversion to RRF3 by hand and really learned a lot.
                                But I would still recommend to do as much as possible with the tool, even if you only take it as a reverence to compare...

                                (UTC+1)

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                                • Palgonundefined
                                  Palgon @DIY-O-Sphere
                                  last edited by

                                  @diy-o-sphere I'm just about to create another one with the tool this time even with piezo settings am curious how the same looks 🙂

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                                  • Palgonundefined
                                    Palgon @Palgon
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                                    @DIY-O-Sphere the newly created cfg looks totally different hope that this looks better and that I'm not on the wrong track. and yes I have to insert m671 and then also that in the bed.g . furthermore I have to look at what the manufacturer makes for information on M558

                                    the whole thing I will do tomorrow

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                                    • fcwiltundefined
                                      fcwilt @Palgon
                                      last edited by

                                      @palgon

                                      While the configurator tool and many folks put the M671 command in config.g I put it it bed.g because it is related to the operation of bed.g and nothing else.

                                      It also means if I need to change M671 I edit bed.g and the next time I do G32 the new M671 settings take effect - no need to re-boot the printer to cause config.g to be processed again.

                                      It is just my personal preference and it doesn't change the behavior of bed leveling.

                                      Also remember to set the Z=0 datum (with a single G30) after leveling the bed.

                                      Frederick

                                      Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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