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    • Stoutundefined
      Stout
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      I have a Duet 2 wifi 1.04 that has been working excellent since I bought it, until now.

      A couple of days ago I smelled that something was burned when printing. I located it to the area under U3 which was extremely hot. I disconnected everything and removed the board from the printer, let it cool and connected it with USB from my iMac. After a while the area around U3 went hot again and finally a spark.

      After that I mounted the board to the printer and connected everything. The Duet Wifi works just like before with the exception that I don't have wifi. When I connect an external power adapter to the USB I immediately get wifi again and can use it as nothing has happened.

      As it's obviously the U3 that supply the wifi I am wondering if there's a way to bridge the USB internally so I can get the wifi without having a cable to the USB port? Am I right if I take 5V and ground from somewhere on the board and connect wires from the 5V directly to the back of the USB pads on the PCB? Or is there any better way to get the wifi working.

      It does not feel right to abandon this card as it's actually working with the exception that I must supply it with external voltage to be able to use it with DWC.

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      • jay_s_ukundefined
        jay_s_uk @Stout
        last edited by jay_s_uk

        @stout U3 is the 12/24v to 5v buck converter so I'm surprised the board works without the USB cable as U3 is usually the only way 5v is supplied.
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        When and where did you purchase the duet?

        Your only real options are supplying 5v to the board via the external header, staying connected via USB or replacing U3

        Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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          Stout @Stout
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          • Stoutundefined
            Stout @jay_s_uk
            last edited by Stout

            @jay_s_uk
            Thanks for rapid response. It's an AliExpress clone card that I bought about a year ago and used it every day since without any issue.

            It's maybe not the U3 but the chip next to it that has melted a bit. I'll take a photo. Howerer, I must have the USB connected to get it to work.

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            • Stoutundefined
              Stout
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              Here's a picture on the actual area. Marked with a red arrow.

              alt text

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              • jay_s_ukundefined
                jay_s_uk @Stout
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                @stout yea, thats U3

                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                • Stoutundefined
                  Stout
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                  When googling it seems to be a quite common problem that the U3 blows. So I am curious why it suddenly happened after using the printer almost 24/7 for a year without changing anything?

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                  • Stoutundefined
                    Stout @jay_s_uk
                    last edited by Stout

                    @jay_s_uk said in No wifi as the U3 blew:

                    Your only real options are supplying 5v to the board via the external header, staying connected via USB or replacing U3

                    So correct me if I'm wrong. I could solder a wire from the 5V external header directly to the USB connector pad and then have a working wifi connection?

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                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                      jay_s_uk @Stout
                      last edited by jay_s_uk

                      @stout no need to solder any wires, the external 5v supply is linked to the internal system. You just need to change a jumper and then add a 5v supply
                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Power_Wiring#Section_5V_power

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                      • Stoutundefined
                        Stout
                        last edited by Stout

                        @jay_s_uk said in No wifi as the U3 blew:

                        @stout no need to solder any wires, the external 5v supply is linked to the internal system. You just need to change a jumper and then add a 5v supply
                        https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Power_Wiring#Section_5V_power

                        Hmmm.. so there's no way to bridge +5V internally to the USB port, let's say from the 5V "always on" fan? If an external power supply is needed then I can as well use the USB cable. But the USB cable is at the front of the printer and disturbing with risk braking the port.

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                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                          jay_s_uk
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                          @stout you can use a USB cable to supply the 5v. If its not working with the USB cable then you have more issues with the board

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                            Stout @jay_s_uk
                            last edited by Stout

                            @jay_s_uk said in No wifi as the U3 blew:

                            @stout you can use a USB cable to supply the 5v. If its not working with the USB cable then you have more issues with the board

                            Yes, I'm using a USB cable now and it's working but what I wanted to do was to hook up power to the backside of the USB- ort internally from the board, and my thought was If it was possible to use a wire from the "always on" fan directly to the USB VBUS pad on the PCB?
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                            • jay_s_ukundefined
                              jay_s_uk @Stout
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                              @stout there is no 5v power available on the board because the U3 has blown.
                              Where are you expecting to find 5v?

                              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                Stout @jay_s_uk
                                last edited by Stout

                                @jay_s_uk said in No wifi as the U3 blew:

                                @stout there is no 5v power available on the board because the U3 has blown.
                                Where are you expecting to find 5v?

                                I don't know but the fan sockets are supplying 5V, right?

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                                • jay_s_ukundefined
                                  jay_s_uk @Stout
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                                  @stout the fans are supplied from U3 or external 5v power, i.e. USB or an external 5v supply.
                                  So again, where are you expecting to find 5v on the board if the 5v buck converter is blown?

                                  Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                    Stout @jay_s_uk
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                                    @jay_s_uk said in No wifi as the U3 blew:

                                    @stout the fans are supplied from U3 or external 5v power, i.e. USB or an external 5v supply.
                                    So again, where are you expecting to find 5v on the board if the 5v buck converter is blown?

                                    Is it possible to connect an external 24-5V buck convertor from the PSU to the USB?

                                    The hole idea is to get rid of the external USB cable or an extra external power source.

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                                    • jay_s_ukundefined
                                      jay_s_uk @Stout
                                      last edited by

                                      @stout yes, you can connect a buck converter to the 5v external connector.

                                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                        Stout @jay_s_uk
                                        last edited by Stout

                                        @jay_s_uk said in No wifi as the U3 blew:

                                        @stout yes, you can connect a buck converter to the 5v external connector.

                                        Then the problem would be solved and I have a working wifi as nothing has happened. I have a couple of buck converters laying around so I'll give it a try.

                                        Thanks for you support jay!

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                                        • Stoutundefined
                                          Stout
                                          last edited by Stout

                                          Just to clear things out from my head. The external 5V socket give power to the board as the USB port does?

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                                          • jay_s_ukundefined
                                            jay_s_uk @Stout
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                                            @stout yea

                                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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