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    • jay_s_ukundefined
      jay_s_uk @supertb1
      last edited by

      @supertb1 can you increase the G4 S1 in your config to at least S2 if not S3?

      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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      • supertb1undefined
        supertb1 @jay_s_uk
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        @jay_s_uk increased S1 to S3:
        ; Drives
        G4 S3 ;wait for expansion boards to start
        M569.1 P50.0 S1 T2 C20 E20 R100 I0 D0 ; Configure the 1HCL board at CAN address 50 with a quadrature encoder on the motor shaft that has 20 steps per motor full step.
        M569.1 P51.0 S1 T2 C20 E20 R100 I0 D0 ; Configure the 1HCL board at CAN address 51 with a quadrature encoder on the motor shaft that has 20 steps per motor full step.
        M569 P50.0 D4 S1 ; Configure the motor on the 1HCL at can address 50 as being in closed-loop drive mode (D4), Open loop (D2) and not reversed (S1) X axis
        M569 P51.0 D2 S1 ; Configure the motor on the 1HCL at can address 51 as being in closed-loop drive mode (D4), Open loop (D2) and not reversed (S1) Y axis
        M569 P0.0 S1 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards Z 1-2 axis
        M569 P0.4 S1 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards Extruder
        M584 X50.0 Y51.0 Z0.0:0.1 E0.4 ; set drive mapping
        M671 X-122.25:689.20 Y0:0 S3.0 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z0) and right (connected to Z1) of X axis
        M350 X32 Y32 Z32 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
        M92 X106.5 Y257 Z795.00 E339.00 ; set steps per mm
        M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
        M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
        M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
        M906 X1000 Y3000 Z3000 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
        M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
        M917 X0 Y0 ; Set the closed loop axes to have a holding current of zero

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        • supertb1undefined
          supertb1 @jay_s_uk
          last edited by

          @jay_s_uk M122 B50
          Diagnostics for board 50:
          Duet EXP1HCL firmware version 3.4.0beta3+1 (2021-09-14 15:07:31)
          Bootloader ID: SAME5x bootloader version 2.4beta (2021-07-23)
          Never used RAM 51580, free system stack 2580 words
          Tasks: Move(notifyWait,0.0%,160) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,108) CanAsync(notifyWait,0.0%,70) CanRecv(notifyWait,0.0%,81) CanClock(notifyWait,0.0%,72) TMC(notifyWait,30.6%,358) CLSend(notifyWait,0.0%,148) CLData(notifyWait,0.0%,142) MAIN(running,67.4%,400) IDLE(ready,0.0%,39) AIN(notifyWait,2.0%,265), total 100.0%
          Last reset 00:01:06 ago, cause: software
          Last software reset time unknown, reason: HardFault bfarValid precise, available RAM 51580, slot 0
          Software reset code 0x0060 HFSR 0x40000000 CFSR 0x00008200 ICSR 0x00430803 BFAR 0x20030008 SP 0x2001eba8 Task MAIN Freestk 531 ok
          Stack: 00000000 00000000 00000002 20030000 00030f39 0001b8f9 0001ea4c 41000000 bf800000 00000000 533c0605 04001200 a808a700 06420000 c3210828 19a21429 50708239 5d000040 2a60041c 5dd40122 4143051f 41200000 41c22c02 4142f6d6 20000010 0002699b 00000002
          Closed loop enabled: no, live status: 0, encoder type none, pre-error threshold: 0.000000, error threshold: 0.000000, reverse polarity: no, tuning: 0, tuning error: 0, collecting data: no, ultimateGain=0.000000, oscillationPeriod=0.000000, Control loop runtime (ms): min=0.000000, max=0.057333, avg=0.001333, Control loop frequency (Hz): min=8241.758789, max=18750.000000, avg=17441.861328
          Driver 0: pos 0, 106.5 steps/mm, standstill, reads 52300, writes 19 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0, steps req 0 dMoves scheduled 0, completed 0, in progress 0, hiccups 0, step errors 0, maxPrep 0, maxOverdue 0, maxInc 0, mcErrs 0, gcmErrs 0
          Peak sync jitter -4/4, peak Rx sync delay 177, resyncs 0/0, no step interrupt scheduled
          VIN: 24.3V, V12: 12.2V
          MCU temperature: min 27.8C, current 28.0C, max 28.0C
          Ticks since heat task active 110, ADC conversions started 65762, completed 65761, timed out 0, errs 0
          Last sensors broadcast 0x00000000 found 0 115 ticks ago, loop time 0
          CAN messages queued 579, send timeouts 0, received 603, lost 0, free buffers 37, min 37, error reg 0
          dup 0, oos 0/0/0/0, bm 0, wbm 0, rxMotionDelay 0
          9/20/2021, 8:50:40 AM M569.6 P50.0 V31
          Error: M569.6: Drive is not in closed loop mode.

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          • supertb1undefined
            supertb1 @jay_s_uk
            last edited by

            @jay_s_uk No change

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            • jay_s_ukundefined
              jay_s_uk @supertb1
              last edited by

              @supertb1 worth a shot

              Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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              • lirwin17undefined
                lirwin17 @supertb1
                last edited by

                Hi @supertb1,

                Sorry, I'm not 100% clear on the actual issue here. Thanks for providing your M122 output, from tuning error: 0x1f, it seems like no runtime tuning has happened. Similar to when an axis is un-homed, a driver that is untuned will not move, so if the issue is that the axis isn't moving then that would be the expected behaviour in this instance.
                However, if you have run tuning, there is a deeper issue here.

                Details of tuning can be found on this page. Specifically, the two 'what do I need to do?' sections (1, 2) are compulsory before the system will move (eventually these should be part of the online config tool, but not just yet for the beta test)

                If you weren't aware of this page in the docs, that's really useful for us to know because it tells us we need to draw more attention to that page 🙂

                Thanks!
                Louis

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                • supertb1undefined
                  supertb1 @lirwin17
                  last edited by

                  @lirwin17 When I manually try to tune the X axis which is on closed loop mode on my config with everything selected it gives this error:
                  M569.5 P50.0 S500 A0 R0 D8191 V71
                  Error: M569.5: Drive is not in closed loop mode
                  M569.5 P50.0 S500 A0 R0 D8191 V71

                  Here is my config:
                  G4 S3 ;wait for expansion boards to start
                  M569.1 P50.0 S1 T2 C20 E20 R100 I0 D0 ; Configure the 1HCL board at CAN address 50 with a quadrature encoder on the motor shaft that has 20 steps per motor full step.
                  M569.1 P51.0 S1 T2 C20 E20 R100 I0 D0 ; Configure the 1HCL board at CAN address 51 with a quadrature encoder on the motor shaft that has 20 steps per motor full step.
                  M569 P50.0 D4 S1 ; Configure the motor on the 1HCL at can address 50 as being in closed-loop drive mode (D4), Open loop (D2) and not reversed (S1) X axis
                  M569 P51.0 D2 S1 ; Configure the motor on the 1HCL at can address 51 as being in closed-loop drive mode (D4), Open loop (D2) and not reversed (S1) Y axis
                  M569 P0.0 S1 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards Z 1-2 axis
                  M569 P0.4 S1 ; physical drive 0.4 goes forwards Extruder
                  M584 X50.0 Y51.0 Z0.0:0.1 E0.4 ; set drive mapping
                  M671 X-122.25:689.20 Y0:0 S3.0 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z0) and right (connected to Z1) of X axis
                  M350 X32 Y32 Z32 E16 I1 ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                  M92 X106.5 Y257 Z795.00 E339.00 ; set steps per mm
                  M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00 ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                  M203 X6000.00 Y6000.00 Z180.00 E1200.00 ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                  M201 X500.00 Y500.00 Z20.00 E250.00 ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                  M906 X1000 Y3000 Z3000 E800 I30 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                  M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout
                  M917 X0 Y0 ; Set the closed loop axes to have a holding current of zero

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                  • supertb1undefined
                    supertb1 @lirwin17
                    last edited by

                    @lirwin17 and it fails to manually tune

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                    • supertb1undefined
                      supertb1 @lirwin17
                      last edited by

                      @lirwin17 with just raw encoder reading and step maneuver it throws fault: M569.5 P50.0 S500 A0 R0 D1 V64 and maintains that the motor is not in closed loop mode

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                      • supertb1undefined
                        supertb1 @lirwin17
                        last edited by

                        @lirwin17 with just current motor steps and target motor steps selected performing the step maneuver yields: M569.5 P50.0 S500 A0 R0 D6 V64 and maintains that the drive is not in closed loop mode

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                        • T3P3Tonyundefined
                          T3P3Tony administrators @supertb1
                          last edited by

                          @supertb1 i think you first need to tune the motors

                          M569.6

                          as outlined here:
                          https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Tuning_the_Duet_3_Expansion_1HCL#Section_Tuning

                          If you are using a quadrature encoder (i.e. your M569.1 command includes T1 or T2), then from the table above, manoeuvres 1, 2, 4, 8 and 16 are required - this means that they must be run every time the printer is powered on. This can be achieved by using the following command:
                          M569.6 P##.# V31 ; Where P##.# is the driver address to tune

                          www.duet3d.com

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                          • lirwin17undefined
                            lirwin17 @supertb1
                            last edited by

                            @supertb1
                            Hmm there are are a few M122 outputs so I've lost track a little...

                            The first ones show Closed loop enabled: yes, but then some later ones show no.

                            The problem seems to be that when you come to run the tuning move, that yes has flipped to a no...

                            Please could you run through the following:

                            • power up (so config.g runs)
                            • run a manoeuvre command - it might be best to start with the simplest one V1

                            And at each point check M122 to see when yes flipps to no. Is it showing yes after config.g has run, or is it only when the move is run that it flips to no?

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                            • supertb1undefined
                              supertb1 @lirwin17
                              last edited by

                              @lirwin17 That yes to the closed loop enable was there before I updated the 1HCL board to the latest firmware and now at power up it reports "no" to the close loop enable

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                              • supertb1undefined
                                supertb1 @lirwin17
                                last edited by

                                @lirwin17 9/20/2021, 4:20:18 PM M122 B50
                                Diagnostics for board 50:
                                Duet EXP1HCL firmware version 3.4.0beta3+1 (2021-09-14 15:07:31)
                                Bootloader ID: SAME5x bootloader version 2.4beta (2021-07-23)
                                Never used RAM 51580, free system stack 2594 words
                                Tasks: Move(notifyWait,0.0%,160) HEAT(notifyWait,0.0%,108) CanAsync(notifyWait,0.0%,70) CanRecv(notifyWait,0.0%,81) CanClock(notifyWait,0.0%,72) TMC(notifyWait,30.6%,358) CLSend(notifyWait,0.0%,148) CLData(notifyWait,0.0%,142) MAIN(running,67.4%,414) IDLE(ready,0.0%,39) AIN(notifyWait,2.0%,265), total 100.0%
                                Last reset 00:02:47 ago, cause: power up
                                Last software reset time unknown, reason: HardFault bfarValid precise, available RAM 51580, slot 0
                                Software reset code 0x0060 HFSR 0x40000000 CFSR 0x00008200 ICSR 0x00430803 BFAR 0x20030008 SP 0x2001eba8 Task MAIN Freestk 531 ok
                                Stack: 00000000 00000000 00000002 20030000 00030f39 0001b8f9 0001ea4c 41000000 bf800000 00000000 533c0605 04001200 a808a700 06420000 c3210828 19a21429 50708239 5d000040 2a60041c 5dd40122 4143051f 41200000 41c22c02 4142f6d6 20000010 0002699b 00000002
                                Closed loop enabled: no, live status: 0, encoder type none, pre-error threshold: 0.000000, error threshold: 0.000000, reverse polarity: no, tuning: 0, tuning error: 0, collecting data: no, ultimateGain=0.000000, oscillationPeriod=0.000000, Control loop runtime (ms): min=0.000000, max=0.058667, avg=0.000000, Control loop frequency (Hz): min=7281.553223, max=18292.683594, avg=17441.861328
                                Driver 0: pos 0, 106.5 steps/mm, standstill, reads 42667, writes 19 timeouts 0, SG min/max 0/0, steps req 0 dMoves scheduled 0, completed 0, in progress 0, hiccups 0, step errors 0, maxPrep 0, maxOverdue 0, maxInc 0, mcErrs 0, gcmErrs 0
                                Peak sync jitter -5/4, peak Rx sync delay 181, resyncs 0/0, no step interrupt scheduled
                                VIN: 24.3V, V12: 12.2V
                                MCU temperature: min 27.4C, current 29.5C, max 29.5C
                                Ticks since heat task active 230, ADC conversions started 164966, completed 164965, timed out 0, errs 0
                                Last sensors broadcast 0x00000000 found 0 235 ticks ago, loop time 0
                                CAN messages queued 1384, send timeouts 0, received 1509, lost 0, free buffers 37, min 37, error reg 0
                                dup 0, oos 0/0/0/0, bm 0, wbm 0, rxMotionDelay 0

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                                • supertb1undefined
                                  supertb1 @lirwin17
                                  last edited by

                                  @lirwin17 I just reinstalled the latest firmware and it is still reporting no to close loop enable at power up

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                                  • supertb1undefined
                                    supertb1 @lirwin17
                                    last edited by

                                    @lirwin17 I tried rolling back the 1HCL board firmware to the previous one, still showing no on the enabled... and it won't let me do any of the tuning variables

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                                    • supertb1undefined
                                      supertb1 @T3P3Tony
                                      last edited by

                                      @t3p3tony I tried to change the closed loop back to open loop on the card in question and taking the "C" value out of " M569.1 P50.0 S1 T2 C20 E20 R100 I0 D0 ; Configure the 1HCL board at CAN address 50 with a quadrature encoder on the motor shaft that has 20 steps per motor full step.
                                      M569.1 P51.0 S1 T2 C20 E20 R100 I0 D0 ; Configure the 1HCL board at CAN address 51 with a quadrature encoder on the motor shaft that has 20 steps per motor full step. and now with the encoded motor it will not operate in open mode either... I reinstalled the 3+1 firmware and put everything back the way it was....

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                                      • supertb1undefined
                                        supertb1 @lirwin17
                                        last edited by

                                        @lirwin17 Just for my information, when you say Power up (so config.g runs) you mean simply energizing the boards correct... or is there another command I need to enter to get the "config.g" to run?

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                                        • supertb1undefined
                                          supertb1 @supertb1
                                          last edited by

                                          @supertb1 so after I did this using just the config it dawned on me that I probably would have to disconnect the encoder from the 1HCL board as well... you guys did a great job on these boards... very smart...lol

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                                          • supertb1undefined
                                            supertb1 @lirwin17
                                            last edited by

                                            @lirwin17 I'm not trying to be extra special here... I guess I need to start from the start... how do I trouble shoot this issue I am having?

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