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    • Charles Fraserundefined
      Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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      @t3p3tony I see okay I will disconnect all from the 3HC except for the power and CAN. It might be a fault with the heating cartridge as when I was clearing the pellet extrusion screw with the board on I fried the chinese motherboard that came with the printer. The process involved taking the heat block that screws on around the screw that pushes the pellets down through the block to the nozzle. The block contains the heat cartridge and the thermocouple. We also thought there was a short because both times that mobo fried it was during the same procedure:

      Heating up the block to make it possible to unscrew and remove it. When pulling it off the power just ran away it wouldn’t stop heating up and the printer would not turn off. I can’t see any short however and have checked repeatedly.

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      • T3P3Tonyundefined
        T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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        @charles-fraser ahh that might be the issue. I assume that thermocouple is the one plugged into the 3HC? Its possible that that has damaged the thermocouple DB (and maybe the 3HC itself). It would be worth trying with the TC daughterboard removed form the 3HC as well.

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        • Charles Fraserundefined
          Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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          @t3p3tony both Diag lights on 3HC and 6HC are flashing in time :))) Thank you so much!

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            Charles Fraser @Charles Fraser
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            • T3P3Tonyundefined
              T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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              @charles-fraser from your description I would say its most likely the TC daughterboard that got damaged but you will need to add connections back one at a time to see what prevents the 5V power from working properly. I would be very careful adding anything that controls a heater incase the 3HC does have some damage and the heater starts heating with no control.

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              • Charles Fraserundefined
                Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                @t3p3tony

                I removed everything from the 3HC - I'll do the process you mentioned. I also tried to update the firmware. This is what happened: It said updating, then okay, then when I tried to check the update it said:

                Screenshot 2021-10-04 at 14.40.33.png

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                • Charles Fraserundefined
                  Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                  @t3p3tony it's flashing four times, then two times, then one quick flash. Sirial tools crashed too.

                  I started SirialTools up again and it says:

                  Screenshot 2021-10-04 at 14.44.30.png

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                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                    T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                    @charles-fraser ok. lets take a step back. With nothing other than CAN and power connected to the 3HC what flashing do you get after a power cycle?

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                    • Charles Fraserundefined
                      Charles Fraser
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                      @t3p3tony

                      it's flashing four times, then two times, then one quick flash.

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                      • Charles Fraserundefined
                        Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                        @t3p3tony I power cycled again and turned off USB power too. Now both 3HC + 6HC diag lights flashing in time again.

                        How long should I wait for the 3HC firmware to update? Will it say okay after that or does it take a min?

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                        • T3P3Tonyundefined
                          T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                          @charles-fraser ok set all the dip switches to off (currently switch 1 is set to on). Then power cycle. You should see the LED flash rapidly as firmware is loaded. once the LED reverts back to flashing in sync (after 20 seconds or so) then set the switch back to 1 on, rest off, then power cycle.

                          Updated as our posts crossed.

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                          • Charles Fraserundefined
                            Charles Fraser @Charles Fraser
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                            @charles-fraser oh it says v 3.3 on the 3HC too now! Okay phew! I will try reconnecting bits to see what's shorting the board. Thank you!

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                            • Charles Fraserundefined
                              Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                              @t3p3tony Oh it's the 3D touch shorting it out! I will disconnect all of that. It's a bit of a complicated wiring with that.

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                              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                                @charles-fraser ok glad that you found what it was.

                                Next step is to get back to SBC mode and see if you can connect to the Duet in DWC from the browser on the pi.

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                                • Charles Fraserundefined
                                  Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                                  @t3p3tony Aibo - easy peasy hehe

                                  I replaced the thermocouple on the heat block with a thermistor because the thermocouple runs along the motor wires and is not sheilded down there.

                                  Could you guess what could be shorting out the whole board on the 3D touch that would cause the heat cartridge heating to run off out of control please?

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                                  • Charles Fraserundefined
                                    Charles Fraser @Charles Fraser
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                                    @T3P3Tony slight problem is I only have one SD card. Can I remove the SD from the 6HC and reflash it with the Duet Pi image and then just control from the Pi?)

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                                    • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                      T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
                                      last edited by T3P3Tony

                                      @charles-fraser yes. If its the one that came with the 6HC it probably has dual partitions and may not need reflashing.

                                      edited to add: make a copy of your /sys/ directory if you have edited stuff to not loose the edits.

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                                      • Charles Fraserundefined
                                        Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                                        @t3p3tony okay I have the Pi connected and updated the system files from an exact copy of the ones I had running on the board before but just uploaded to the Pi through USB

                                        Here are my errors. Amazed how neither the thermistor nor the thermocouple (for the bed) are working.

                                        582D3593-3E46-4865-89D3-D1D894B1EBB1.jpeg

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                                        • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                          T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                                          @charles-fraser ok please post the contents of your config.g as you are using it now here (using the </> menu option to get it to format nicely)

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                                          • Charles Fraserundefined
                                            Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                                            @t3p3tony no wait the SBC is not connecting to the Duet. It says connected but when I run a command like M115 it just keeps loading and loading and gets stuck there

                                            image.jpg

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