Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer
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@t3p3tony
Console output:1635171097795-mfm-test-1:
Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, disabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 1% to 200%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 131 agc 75, measured sensitivity 25.89mm/rev, min 99% max 103% over 48.1mm1635171097802-mfm-test-2:
Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, enabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 1% to 200%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 132 agc 77, measured sensitivity 26.00mm/rev, min 95% max 102% over 99.6mm1635171097805-mfm-test-3:
Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, disabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 1% to 200%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 132 agc 75, measured sensitivity 25.87mm/rev, min 98% max 102% over 49.0mm1635173702760-mfm-test-4:
Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, disabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 1% to 200%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 132 agc 75, measured sensitivity 26.09mm/rev, min 97% max 102% over 39.1mm1635178672431-mfm-test-5
Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, disabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 1% to 200%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 131 agc 75, measured sensitivity 25.88mm/rev, min 98% max 102% over 99.3mm1635178672433-mfm-test-6
Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, disabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 1% to 200%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 131 agc 75, measured sensitivity 25.99mm/rev, min 97% max 104% over 99.4mm1635178672436-mfm-test-7
Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, disabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 1% to 200%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 131 agc 75, measured sensitivity 25.79mm/rev, min 98% max 101% over 45.4mm -
@dc42 said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:
@thedragonlord @wouldstain @alankilian @charlesmc @CNCModeller I have fixed a couple of potential issues in RRF that might have caused spurious under or over extrusion reports. My initial testing suggests that these have fixed at least part of the problem - the window at the end of the drywall-anchor print went from about 53-130% before to 93-112% after. However I have not done enough runs (2 before the changes, 1 after) to prove statistically that the changes have made an improvement.
If you wish to try out RRF with these changes, you can find the binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xeu30go894p9xbs/AAB5U66SH4wbjKIcX0snUbKxa?dl=0. Caution! These are pre-beta binaries so they have had limited testing. If you are not already running firmware 3.4beta5 then you must read the upgrade notes before installing them.
No way...Installed the pre beta but got this after few minutes of printing:
Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, enabled, sensitivity 24.78mm/rev, allow 60% to 130%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 131 agc 66, measured sensitivity 24.49mm/rev, min 41% max 118% over 771.9mmI've kept an eye to the range for about two minutes and the minimum and maximun have been about stable at around 94% and 104%. After two minutes I went away from the printer so I can't say if before the stop the range has started to enlarge or if the stop itself has been a single event
What I can say for sure is that once more the stop occured in the surrounding of a sharp corner where the nozzle slows down...(I can say because I've found a small blob of filament where the nozzle has stopped)
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@thedragonlord is this with the file Very Fast Test Print__PETG Amazon Basic_0.2000mm.gcode that you posted earlier?
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@dc42 said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:
@thedragonlord is this with the file Very Fast Test Print__PETG Amazon Basic_0.2000mm.gcode that you posted earlier?
no, with this one
GTS3D PLA Calibration Cube T0__PLA GTS3D_0.2000mm.gcode -
Just received this from the attached print:
Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, enabled, sensitivity 26.50mm/rev, allow 1% to 200%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 129 agc 75, measured sensitivity 27.29mm/rev, min -1% max 109% over 406.5mm
I'm guessing the negative percentage indicates a retraction?
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@wouldstain thanks. I have found a section of a short print file that gives repeatable bad results.
It would be helpful to try the cone print but better if you attached the sliced gcode than the stl file and my slicing settings will be different.
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@t3p3tony
Oops! I had passed it directly from Prusa to the printer w/o saving as a file...here you go!
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It occurs to me that this could be part of a broader issue I had encountered prior to installing the MFM.
In short, I was experiencing what appeared to be over-advancement on the extruder. This would often result in filament being ground in the extruder to the point where it would no longer feed leading to an eventual clog in the hotend and even in the throat.
I worked with @3lemental to tune the M92 E-value (went from 837 to 814) which yielded some improvement but did not completely resolve the issue.
Installing the MFM lead to a drastic improvement (no more clogs or ground filament!) but these pauses may be related. Since this was no longer ruining print jobs, I sort of placed the issue on the back burner.
I don't know if it's appropriate to this thread but I have more detail on what steps I had / have taken so far on this.
Just let me know if you would like me to post it here or elsewhere.
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@wouldstain Probably better to start a new thread on that, thanks.
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I have put new 3.4beta5+1 binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xeu30go894p9xbs/AAB5U66SH4wbjKIcX0snUbKxa?dl=0. These fix a bug that was giving me consistently poor results from the filament monitor on the drywall-anchor print. This particular bug was either introduced or made worse in version 3.4beta2. The particular instance that triggered it was a very short extruder move, less than one microstep long. This means that it would have occurred more often on machines with low extruder steps/mm.
Use these binaries with caution, because I have done only small test prints with the Duet 2 binary, basic movement tests with the Duet 3 binary, and I have not yet tested the Duet 3 Mini or Maestro binaries.
These binaries also include the race condition fix that may have caused occasional incorrect results from the filament monitor in firmware 3.3 and earlier versions.
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@dc42 said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:
I have put new 3.4beta5+1 binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xeu30go894p9xbs/AAB5U66SH4wbjKIcX0snUbKxa?dl=0. These fix a bug that was giving me consistently poor results from the filament monitor on the drywall-anchor print. This particular bug was either introduced or made worse in version 3.4beta2. The particular instance that triggered it was a very short extruder move, less than one microstep long. This means that it would have occurred more often on machines with low extruder steps/mm.
Use these binaries with caution, because I have done only small test prints with the Duet 2 binary, basic movement tests with the Duet 3 binary, and I have not yet tested the Duet 3 Mini or Maestro binaries.
These binaries also include the race condition fix that may have caused occasional incorrect results from the filament monitor in firmware 3.3 and earlier versions.
I'll give it a try with the same gcode I've posted earlier and I'll let you know... just for info my printer uses two bondtech BMG extruders so I haven't configured a low step/mm for them
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@dc42 said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:
I have put new 3.4beta5+1 binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xeu30go894p9xbs/AAB5U66SH4wbjKIcX0snUbKxa?dl=0. These fix a bug that was giving me consistently poor results from the filament monitor on the drywall-anchor print. This particular bug was either introduced or made worse in version 3.4beta2. The particular instance that triggered it was a very short extruder move, less than one microstep long. This means that it would have occurred more often on machines with low extruder steps/mm.
Use these binaries with caution, because I have done only small test prints with the Duet 2 binary, basic movement tests with the Duet 3 binary, and I have not yet tested the Duet 3 Mini or Maestro binaries.
These binaries also include the race condition fix that may have caused occasional incorrect results from the filament monitor in firmware 3.3 and earlier versions.
Good news so far!
I've reprinted the same gcode and it went all ok!
M591 D0 Duet3D rotating magnet filament monitor v3 on pin e0stop, enabled, sensitivity 24.78mm/rev, allow 60% to 130%, check every 3.0mm, version 3, mag 131 agc 65, measured sensitivity 24.54mm/rev, min 95% max 112% over 1356.0mmso far so good!
More tests will follow!
Thank you guys for your effort!
EDIT:
It doesn't work anymore the Telegram bot I use to have all the printer notifications...have you changed something? -
@thedragonlord said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:
It doesn't work anymore the Telegram bot I use to have all the printer notifications...have you changed something?
best to start a new thread on that
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@t3p3tony said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:
@thedragonlord said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:
It doesn't work anymore the Telegram bot I use to have all the printer notifications...have you changed something?
best to start a new thread on that
Ok, I wrote here because the issue started this morning after the installation of the last pre beta
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@dc42 said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:
I have put new 3.4beta5+1 binaries at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xeu30go894p9xbs/AAB5U66SH4wbjKIcX0snUbKxa?dl=0. These fix a bug that was giving me consistently poor results from the filament monitor on the drywall-anchor print. This particular bug was either introduced or made worse in version 3.4beta2. The particular instance that triggered it was a very short extruder move, less than one microstep long. This means that it would have occurred more often on machines with low extruder steps/mm.
Use these binaries with caution, because I have done only small test prints with the Duet 2 binary, basic movement tests with the Duet 3 binary, and I have not yet tested the Duet 3 Mini or Maestro binaries.
These binaries also include the race condition fix that may have caused occasional incorrect results from the filament monitor in firmware 3.3 and earlier versions.
I can confirm that the sensor issues has been solved by your FW patch...I've made several small prints and one large prints in dual material using both the sensors and I had no problem at all
Thanks again
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@thedragonlord thanks for your help in working through this and providing some test prints. Can you confirm your filament monitor settings, PA settings and what filament monitor results you are now getting.
@wouldstain have you had any success with the new builds yet?
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@t3p3tony said in Rotating Magnetic Sensor - Keeps Pausing Printer:
@thedragonlord thanks for your help in working through this and providing some test prints. Can you confirm your filament monitor settings, PA settings and what filament monitor results you are now getting.
@wouldstain have you had any success with the new builds yet?
Monitor settings:
M591 D0 P3 C"e0stop" R60:300 L24.78 E3.0 S1 M591 D1 P3 C"e1stop" R60:300 L24.67 E3.0 S1PA Settings for PLA:
M572 D0 S0.45 ; Pressure Advance M572 D1 S0.45 ; Pressure AdvancePA Settings for PETG:
M572 D0 S0.75 ; Pressure Advance M572 D1 S0.75 ; Pressure AdvanceI alway get results around 95-98% as minimum
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@dc42 Duet2Combined.bin for Duet2 Wifi?
Also, what is the .map file? Is that something I need?Thank you!
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@wouldstain you can ignore the map file. This is a build of RRF 3.4b5+1, are you running 3.4b5 already? If so then you can just update to this version using the Update system files in DWC->System. If you are not then please update to 3.4b5 first (DWC as well as RRF)
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@alankilian if you have a chance to try the new version that would also be helpful, thanks.
