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    • Nylkosundefined
      Nylkos
      last edited by

      I rechecked the wire and the Config.g / Bed.g / Homez.g /…
      Still Red Background...
      The only way that I found not to have the red background was to add I1 to the

      M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F100 T2000

      But then I never get anything in Z-probe sensor, even when triggered.

      Do we have to declare the BLTouch as active low or high?
      do we need anything that isn't in https://duet3d.com/wiki/Connecting_a_Z_probe?

      Thanks you for your help.

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      • fcwiltundefined
        fcwilt
        last edited by

        Hi,

        I had a BL unit and after one bed strike (not that hard) it ceased to work correctly.

        Frederick

        Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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        • funkfingerundefined
          funkfinger
          last edited by

          I am going through the same problem. New build with a Duet Wifi and BLTouch - the BLTouch was working with ramps 1.4. When I get a chance (and can't get anywhere with the Duet), I will plug it back into the ramps and see if it's the device or the settings. Any updates on your situation are much appreciated.

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
            T3P3Tony administrators
            last edited by

            I don't have a Bl touch however there is a long thread here with loads of people's experiences:
            https://www.duet3d.com/forum/thread.php?id=459#p13924

            www.duet3d.com

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            • number40fanundefined
              number40fan
              last edited by

              One thing to remember is that with the newest firmware revisions, deployprobe and retract probe folders are not needed any more.

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              • fulgundefined
                fulg
                last edited by

                Try to debug this one step at a time. Is the BLTouch getting 5V, can you manually deploy/retract, did you use the resistor for 3.3V logic (as per the BLTouch documentation)? If you forgot the resistor then the BLTouch sent 5V into a 3.3V input and possibly damaged it. This could be why you are seeing a triggered probe all the time.

                On my setup I did not have to invert the input for my BLTouch (no I1 on M558).

                BTW emailing me directly was not ok, I did not sell the Duet nor the BLTouch to you. I am happy to help here but if you want private support I will send you an invoice for my time.

                Cheers,
                Ben.

                VORON V2 CoreXY + Duet3 Mini5+ Ethernet v1.0 with Mini2+ expansion, VORON V0 CoreXY + Duet2 Maestro

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                • Nylkosundefined
                  Nylkos
                  last edited by

                  can you manually deploy/retract,

                  Yes

                  did you use the resistor for 3.3V logic

                  No, I cut the wire for the 3.3V logic.

                  I apologize if my message was unwanted… you just seemed active, knowledgeable, you posted your files... Worst case scenario I expected to be treated like spam. Do not worry, I won't contact you again.

                  But thanks you for the answer.

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                  • dc42undefined
                    dc42 administrators
                    last edited by

                    @number40fan:

                    One thing to remember is that with the newest firmware revisions, deployprobe and retract probe folders are not needed any more.

                    The change in the 1.19 firmware is that those files are invoked automatically if you do a G29 or G30 command and the probe is not already deployed. The files are needed if you use a probe that needs to be deployed, such as the Bltouch, and need to be set up correctly for whatever type of probe it is.

                    Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                    Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                    http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                    • dc42undefined
                      dc42 administrators
                      last edited by

                      @Nylkos:

                      I unplugged everything, check the resistance in each wire and reinstalled…
                      I am using Duet 0.8.5
                      Black wire to the GND pin in the Z Probe section
                      White wire to the AD12 pin in the Z Probe section
                      Orange wire to the pin 21 in the expansion section
                      Red wire to the pin 1 in the expansion section
                      Brown wire to the pin 2 in the expansion section

                      Here are my config.g modifications...

                      M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1
                      M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F100 T2000
                      G31 X3 Y-1.8 Z2 P25 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height
                      M557 X15:285 Y15:285 S20 ; Define mesh grid

                      I did notice one thing… while I had nothing wired up and no modification in my config.g, I had some 433 in the Z-Probe sensor and it wasn't red... could my board be damaged or defective?

                      Check the connection from the Bltouch to the input pin on the Z probe connector (white wire).

                      With probe type 5 selected (P5 in the M558 command), with nothing connected to the input pin you should get a reading of 1000. If you connect that pin to ground, you should get a reading of zero. But with probe type 1 selected, when nothing is connected to the input pin you might see anything between 0 and 1000 because the pin is floating.

                      Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                      Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                      http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                      • Nylkosundefined
                        Nylkos
                        last edited by

                        @dc42:

                        Check the connection from the Bltouch to the input pin on the Z probe connector (white wire).

                        With probe type 5 selected (P5 in the M558 command), with nothing connected to the input pin you should get a reading of 1000. If you connect that pin to ground, you should get a reading of zero. But with probe type 1 selected, when nothing is connected to the input pin you might see anything between 0 and 1000 because the pin is floating.

                        I will do the test.
                        I will also try with a 240 Ohms transistor… it's really hard to see if the connection was properly cut for the 3.3V logic, Worst case scenario with the 240 Ohms, I assume that I would see a red blinking light...

                        @fulg:

                        I did not sell the Duet nor the BLTouch to you.

                        Do you have a store?

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                        • Nylkosundefined
                          Nylkos
                          last edited by

                          @dc42:

                          Check the connection from the Bltouch to the input pin on the Z probe connector (white wire).

                          With probe type 5 selected (P5 in the M558 command), with nothing connected to the input pin you should get a reading of 1000. If you connect that pin to ground, you should get a reading of zero. But with probe type 1 selected, when nothing is connected to the input pin you might see anything between 0 and 1000 because the pin is floating.

                          I must admit that I am a little embarrassed, but when you are asking to check the connection, I assume that you are asking me to measure the Amps. To measure the amps, I require to add in my multi-meter into a closed circuit. So how could I read the amps of the white wire while it's unplugged?

                          While being unsure of what you meant here is what I did…
                          Resistance Black to white wire 1000 Ohms
                          Amps on the black wire while the white is not connected will be of 10-20ma when triggered
                          Volt on the red wire (pins 1) 4.89V
                          Amps on the red wire (pin 1) varies 2.2-3.5
                          I noticed something weird... IF I unplug the BLTouch completely, I still get the 1000 in the Z-Probe sensor... with the red background...

                          I tried adding the 240 transistor and got a red blinking light.

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                          • number40fanundefined
                            number40fan
                            last edited by

                            @dc42:

                            @number40fan:

                            One thing to remember is that with the newest firmware revisions, deployprobe and retract probe folders are not needed any more.

                            The change in the 1.19 firmware is that those files are invoked automatically if you do a G29 or G30 command and the probe is not already deployed. The files are needed if you use a probe that needs to be deployed, such as the Bltouch, and need to be set up correctly for whatever type of probe it is.

                            Ah, sorry about that. I thought they needed to be deleted no matter what. I'll keep that in mind in the future when trying to help out when/if I can.

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
                              last edited by

                              No problem, I have seen that your replies have been very helpful to a number of Duet users. Please keep it up!

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • Nylkosundefined
                                Nylkos
                                last edited by

                                I had the time to run some additional testing:
                                Voltage for the white wire, when pin is down 3,2V, pin up 0,10V
                                For the Amps on the white I assume that the pulse is coming too fast I can't seem to catch it on the multi-meter

                                From that and the 240 homs resistor causing the blinking red led, I assume that the wire for the 3.3v logic was properly cut.

                                The Z-Probe sensor in the web controller, it's source, I assume would be the In pin from the Z-Probe (duet Wifi or Ethernet) or the AD12 (duet 0.8.5 & 0.6).

                                How come is the Z-Probe background remain with 1000 value when my BLTouch is unplugged…

                                I was able to remove the red background by changing the P value in the G31
                                The background turned yellowish around P1000 and back to white around P1500

                                However I can't seem to get the value to 0 with any of the M280 commands.

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators
                                  last edited by

                                  When the output voltage is 0.10V, you should get a reading of around 30 if the connections are good and the configuration is correct.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • Nylkosundefined
                                    Nylkos
                                    last edited by

                                    @dc42:

                                    When the output voltage is 0.10V, you should get a reading of around 30 if the connections are good and the configuration is correct.

                                    @fulg:

                                    Try to debug this one step at a time.

                                    IMO, to do so I will require to do and redo some testing
                                    Let me know if you have any idea on how to do this correctly…
                                    Since I am using the Duet 0.8.5:
                                    Wire configuration:

                                    • White (OUT) to AD12 (Z-probe section)

                                    • Black (GND) to GND (Z-probe section)

                                    • Red (+5V) to 5v Pin 1 (+5V)

                                    • Orange (Control) to pin 21 (heater 3)

                                    • Brown (GND) to pin 2 (GND)

                                    For the Connections:

                                    • I will move the BLTouch to be plugged almost directly on the board (require room to plug the multi-meter

                                    • I will remeasure the voltage for the white wire for the pins in and out

                                    Is there any more verification that I can run on the BLTouch or the duet 0.8.5 hardware directly?

                                    Software wise, Firmware is up to date (Duet 0.8.5 & Web Controller)

                                    Until I can make sure that I can get the value in Z-Probe down to zero I will not look at other files then the config.g

                                    Added to config.g:

                                    • M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1

                                    • M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F100 T2000

                                    • G31 X30 Y18 Z1 P25

                                    For the Commissioning and testing:

                                    • M280 P3 S10 I1 deploys the probe

                                    • M280 P3 S60 I1, retract the probe

                                    Config.g files:

                                    ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 1.17)
                                    ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                                    ;
                                    ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool on Sat Sep 09 2017 20:34:25 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time)

                                    ; General preferences
                                    M111 S0 ; Debugging off
                                    G21 ; Work in millimetres
                                    G90 ; Send absolute coordinates…
                                    M83 ; ...but relative extruder moves
                                    M555 P1 ; Set firmware compatibility to look like RepRapFirmare
                                    M667 S1 ; Select CoreXY mode
                                    M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1 ; Set axis minima
                                    M208 X300 Y300 Z335 S0 ; Set axis maxima

                                    ; Endstops
                                    M574 X2 Y2 Z0 S0 ; Define active high microswitches
                                    M558 P5 X0 Y0 Z1 H5 F100 T2000
                                    G31 X30 Y18 Z1 P25 ; Set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height

                                    ; Drives
                                    M569 P0 S1 ; Drive 0 goes forwards
                                    M569 P1 S1 ; Drive 1 goes forwards
                                    M569 P2 S1 ; Drive 2 goes forwards
                                    M569 P3 S1 ; Drive 3 goes forwards
                                    M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1 ; Configure microstepping with interpolation
                                    M92 X160 Y160 Z796 E420 ; Set steps per mm
                                    M566 X900 Y900 Z12 E120 ; Set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                                    M203 X6000 Y6000 Z180 E1200 ; Set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                                    M201 X500 Y20 Z250 E250 ; Set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                                    M906 X800 Y800 Z800 E800 I30 ; Set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                                    M84 S30 ; Set idle timeout

                                    ; Heaters
                                    M307 H3 A-1 C-1 D-1
                                    M143 S305 ; Set maximum heater temperature to 305C
                                    M305 P0 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 0
                                    M305 P1 T100000 B4138 C0 R4700 ; Set thermistor + ADC parameters for heater 1

                                    ; Tools
                                    M563 P0 D0 H1 ; Define tool 0
                                    G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0 ; Set tool 0 axis offsets
                                    G10 P0 R0 S0 ; Set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C

                                    ; Network
                                    M550 PMy printer ; Set machine name
                                    M540 PBE:EF:DE:AD:FE:ED ; Set MAC address
                                    M552 P192.168.2.50 S1 ; Enable network and set IP address
                                    M553 P255.255.255.0 ; Set netmask
                                    M554 P192.168.2.254 ; Set gateway
                                    M586 P0 S1 ; Enable HTTP
                                    M586 P1 S0 ; Disable FTP
                                    M586 P2 S0 ; Disable Telnet

                                    ; Fans
                                    M106 P0 S0.3 I0 F500 H-1 ; Set fan 0 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned off
                                    M106 P1 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 1 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on
                                    M106 P2 S1 I0 F500 H1 T45 ; Set fan 2 value, PWM signal inversion and frequency. Thermostatic control is turned on

                                    ; Custom settings are not configured

                                    Is there anything that I should test or take a look at?

                                    Thanks you

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                                    • Nylkosundefined
                                      Nylkos
                                      last edited by

                                      @Nylkos:

                                      For the Connections:

                                      • I will move the BLTouch to be plugged almost directly on the board (require room to plug the multi-meter

                                      • I will remeasure the voltage for the white wire for the pins in and out

                                      I redid the test, I can confirm the value that I have on the white wire while retracted = 0.103V
                                      However when I boot, after the "testing", while retracted I have 3.20V…

                                      Is there any test that I could do on the board itself to validate that I just don't have a damaged board? I already had to reweld 2 pins on this board. I visually checked pins 1-2 & 21, they seem fine... I am afraid to cause damage if I go check anything with the multi-meter without proper instructions...

                                      Thanks you

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                                      • dc42undefined
                                        dc42 administrators
                                        last edited by

                                        Try P1 instead of P5 in the M558 command, in case it makes a difference.

                                        Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                        Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                        http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                        • fulgundefined
                                          fulg
                                          last edited by

                                          You say you added the proper G31 command in your config.g but in the file you showed, the G31 is missing its P25 parameter, which is required to get the BLTouch to work.

                                          Since you can measure a voltage between 0.1 and 3.2V on the white wire, it means the 3.3V trace was correctly cut.

                                          Out of curiosity, which pins did you have to reweld on your Duet? Was it the Zprobe input? 🙂

                                          If the Zprobe input is damaged on your Duet, you could always use probe type 4 or 6 to use the E0/E1 endstop pins instead.

                                          VORON V2 CoreXY + Duet3 Mini5+ Ethernet v1.0 with Mini2+ expansion, VORON V0 CoreXY + Duet2 Maestro

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                                          • Nylkosundefined
                                            Nylkos
                                            last edited by

                                            @fulg:

                                            You say you added the proper G31 command in your config.g but in the file you showed, the G31 is missing its P25 parameter, which is required to get the BLTouch to work.

                                            Since you can measure a voltage between 0.1 and 3.2V on the white wire, it means the 3.3V trace was correctly cut.

                                            Out of curiosity, which pins did you have to reweld on your Duet? Was it the Zprobe input? 🙂

                                            If the Zprobe input is damaged on your Duet, you could always use probe type 4 or 6 to use the E0/E1 endstop pins instead.

                                            Sorry the P25 was an oversight, I redid the complete settings. I added the correction on the file and in the above thread.

                                            for the rewelding, no it was for the E0 hotend

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