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    • Charles Fraserundefined
      Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
      last edited by

      @t3p3tony

      I undid the changes and unplugged the 3D touch and it still does not work. How can even wiring up one io wrong fry the whole board?

      I noticed, before all this crashed, the print cooling fan was spinning but hardly getting going then stopping again.

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      • T3P3Tonyundefined
        T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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        @charles-fraser said in Large Format Dowell to Duet conversion:

        I noticed, before all this crashed, the print cooling fan was spinning but hardly getting going then stopping again

        unplug this as well - the power cycle the power to both the 6HC and the 3HC. Run M98 P"0:sys/config.g" to verify the changes are undone.

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        • Charles Fraserundefined
          Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
          last edited by

          @t3p3tony

          Nothing is happening when I do any commands anymore. It just spins around and around. All things added are disconnected now. The 3HC doesnt blink anymore 😕

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          • T3P3Tonyundefined
            T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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            @charles-fraser can you still access the network interface? in that case send M122

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            • Charles Fraserundefined
              Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
              last edited by

              @t3p3tony

              m122
              === Diagnostics ===
              RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 MB6HC version 3.4.0beta5 (2021-10-12 13:53:56) running on Duet 3 MB6HC v1.01 or later (SBC mode)
              Board ID: 08DJM-9P63L-DJ3S0-7J1D6-3SD6S-1UJV8
              Used output buffers: 1 of 40 (12 max)
              === RTOS ===
              Static ram: 151104
              Dynamic ram: 65108 of which 0 recycled
              Never used RAM 134460, free system stack 219 words
              Tasks: SBC(ready,0.4%,518) HEAT(notifyWait,0.1%,361) Move(notifyWait,0.0%,351) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,944) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,374) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,333) TMC(notifyWait,7.1%,92) MAIN(running,41.2%,1241) IDLE(ready,51.2%,30), total 100.0%
              Owned mutexes: HTTP(MAIN)
              === Platform ===
              Last reset 00:00:30 ago, cause: power up
              Last software reset details not available
              Error status: 0x00
              Step timer max interval 132
              MCU temperature: min 12.4, current 21.8, max 21.8
              Supply voltage: min 24.1, current 24.2, max 24.2, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
              12V rail voltage: min 12.1, current 12.2, max 12.2, under voltage events: 0
              Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
              Driver 0: pos 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, reads 41983, writes 14 timeouts 0
              Driver 1: pos 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, reads 41983, writes 14 timeouts 0
              Driver 2: pos 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, reads 41983, writes 14 timeouts 0
              Driver 3: pos 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, reads 41983, writes 14 timeouts 0
              Driver 4: pos 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, reads 41983, writes 14 timeouts 0
              Driver 5: pos 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, reads 41983, writes 14 timeouts 0
              Date/time: 2021-11-03 20:39:44
              Slowest loop: 0.97ms; fastest: 0.05ms
              === Storage ===
              Free file entries: 10
              SD card 0 not detected, interface speed: 37.5MBytes/sec
              SD card longest read time 0.0ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
              === Move ===
              DMs created 125, segments created 0, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
              === MainDDARing ===
              Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
              === AuxDDARing ===
              Scheduled moves 0, completed 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
              === Heat ===
              Bed heaters = 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1 -1 -1
              === GCodes ===
              Segments left: 0
              Movement lock held by null
              HTTP* is doing "M122" in state(s) 0
              Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
              File is idle in state(s) 0
              USB is idle in state(s) 0
              Aux is idle in state(s) 0
              Trigger* is idle in state(s) 0
              Queue is idle in state(s) 0
              LCD is idle in state(s) 0
              SBC is idle in state(s) 0
              Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
              Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
              Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
              Code queue is empty
              === CAN ===
              Messages queued 168, received 0, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, peak Tx sync delay 0, free buffers 49 (min 48), ts 154/0/0
              Tx timeouts 0,0,153,13,0,0 last cancelled message type 30 dest 127
              === SBC interface ===
              State: 4, failed transfers: 0, checksum errors: 649
              Last transfer: 2ms ago
              RX/TX seq numbers: 16350/750
              SPI underruns 2, overruns 2
              Disconnects: 0, timeouts: 0, IAP RAM available 0x2b7dc
              Buffer RX/TX: 0/0-0
              === Duet Control Server ===
              Duet Control Server v3.4-b5
              Code buffer space: 4096
              Configured SPI speed: 8000000Hz
              Full transfers per second: 37.18, max wait times: 2187.4ms/29.1ms
              Codes per second: 0.01
              Maximum length of RX/TX data transfers: 2868/560
              
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              • T3P3Tonyundefined
                T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
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                @charles-fraser and after doing the following:

                Power cycle the 3HC
                send M98 P"0:sys/config.g"
                Send M122 B1

                www.duet3d.com

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                • Charles Fraserundefined
                  Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                  last edited by

                  @t3p3tony

                  I’ve done that and nothing. When I send those commands the DWC gets stuck in the spinning wheel of death. There is no blinking light on the 3HC

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                  • T3P3Tonyundefined
                    T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
                    last edited by

                    @charles-fraser it sounds like that 3d touch has caused an issues (or resurfaced an issue from the previous heater problems) with the 3HC. I remember you had issues with it right at the beginning - is this a new 3d touch or your original one?

                    We previously reset and reflashed the firmware on the 3HC. I think that's the step to take again now:

                    To force a firmware reload on the 3HC set all the dip switched to 0, power cycle the 3HC, you should see the diag light flash a bit. when its showing steady flashing in sync with the mainboard, switch the dip switch back to 1 as it was then power cycle the 3HC.

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                    • Charles Fraserundefined
                      Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                      last edited by Charles Fraser

                      @t3p3tony

                      I have done that and still no flashing light

                      09C7094B-9EE9-47F1-B0DE-E0CBDFB99EF1.jpeg

                      Also this is the same 3D touch as before. Now I remove it but still the 3HC doesnt flash. Before when I removed it the 3HC started working again. There is nothing on the board and it’s not working

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                      • Charles Fraserundefined
                        Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                        last edited by

                        @t3p3tony

                        04/11/2021, 10:20:13	Warning: Lost connection to Duet (Timeout while waiting for transfer ready pin)
                        04/11/2021, 10:20:09	Error: M308: Response timeout: CAN addr 1, req type 6031, RID=6
                        04/11/2021, 10:20:06	Error: M558: Response timeout: CAN addr 1, req type 6036, RID=5
                        04/11/2021, 10:20:06	Error: G31: Invalid Z probe index
                        04/11/2021, 10:20:06	Error: Invalid remote handle
                        04/11/2021, 10:20:05	Error: M906: Response timeout: CAN addr 1, req type 6043, RID=4
                        04/11/2021, 10:20:05	Error: M92: Response timeout: CAN addr 1, req type 6042, RID=3
                        04/11/2021, 10:20:04	Error: M350: Response timeout: CAN addr 1, req type 6042, RID=2
                        04/11/2021, 10:20:02	Error: M584: Response timeout: CAN addr 1, req type 6042, RID=1
                        04/11/2021, 10:20:00	Error: M569: Response timeout: CAN addr 1, req type 6018, RID=0
                        04/11/2021, 10:19:59	Connected to duet3
                        
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                        • Charles Fraserundefined
                          Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                          last edited by

                          @t3p3tony

                          Any help? Is it fried? I can't believe it fries just because of a short that doesn't make sense to me

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                          • T3P3Tonyundefined
                            T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
                            last edited by

                            @charles-fraser

                            Is the 3.3v LED lit on the 3HC? (its with the other power LEDS in the top left og the board as you have it oriented.

                            www.duet3d.com

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                            • T3P3Tonyundefined
                              T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
                              last edited by

                              @charles-fraser said in Large Format Dowell to Duet conversion:

                              40DCE328-A7C2-4A3C-9C62-8BDB2E453241.jpeg

                              Not sure what is going on here? why were there two sets of wires going into IO2?

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                              • Charles Fraserundefined
                                Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
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                                @t3p3tony said in Large Format Dowell to Duet conversion:

                                Not sure what is going on here? why were there two sets of wires going into IO2?

                                None of this is plugged in any more. I explained this in my post with the description of the wiring of the 3D touch above. Please have a look.

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                                • Charles Fraserundefined
                                  Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                                  last edited by Charles Fraser

                                  @t3p3tony

                                  Nothing is plugged into the 3HC

                                  These are the lights that are on:

                                  9FCE74BD-21C1-4C93-8D8E-DCBD85719BA2.jpeg

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                                  • Charles Fraserundefined
                                    Charles Fraser @Charles Fraser
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                                    @T3P3Tony this explains the wiring

                                    @charles-fraser said in Large Format Dowell to Duet conversion:

                                    @t3p3tony

                                    I’m sorry it’s a bit of a fudge but I have only been able to get the 3D touch wired up (I hope correctly) with the 3HC, IO_2

                                    Here is what the wiring from the touch is supposed to be:

                                    418497BB-44CB-459F-B606-5276C3D52852.jpeg

                                    But the 3D touch I have does not have a white wire, it has a blue wire though so I am guessing that’s the only difference.

                                    I have to connect the BL touch to two different cables, each with four wires in them to reach the board at the other end of the printer. In one of the cables, two of the wires are already used by the NTC thermistor so it looks like this:

                                    C0A1A2D2-648A-486F-B729-2C97DDC6811F.jpeg

                                    Then I can only reach IO_2 on the 3H with all that following this diagram:

                                    76A4FAD0-34A6-48D1-9BB1-19A68325A9AB.jpeg

                                    Which looks like this:

                                    4B557514-9CF8-43D8-BAA6-CEE607C66206.jpeg

                                    40DCE328-A7C2-4A3C-9C62-8BDB2E453241.jpeg

                                    I hope that’s correct! I’ll try to change the code and hope it works!

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                                    • Charles Fraserundefined
                                      Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                                      last edited by

                                      @t3p3tony

                                      Hi please advise. Do I need to buy a new board or what to keep things moving forwards?

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                                      • T3P3Tonyundefined
                                        T3P3Tony administrators @Charles Fraser
                                        last edited by

                                        @charles-fraser It looks like the 3.3V regulator & possibly other ICs on the 3HC was blown by the 3d touch. I suspect given that it caused issues before that it is faulty, I don't know much about the 3d touches but if they are the same as the BL touch internally they should not blow the board by just mis wiring.

                                        Yes you need to replace the 3HC

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                                        • Charles Fraserundefined
                                          Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                                          last edited by

                                          @t3p3tony

                                          Okay I will as soon as I have some money. Is there a way to diagnose what caused this? Is a fan wired the wrong way or a 3D touch really able to blow a whole board?

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                                          • Charles Fraserundefined
                                            Charles Fraser @T3P3Tony
                                            last edited by

                                            @t3p3tony hi Tony, I have the replacement 3HC now and am awaiting a BL Touch to arrive next week.

                                            I’ll try to reconnect the new 3HC and rewire it as it was before just leaving out the fan and 3D Touch.

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