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    • o_lampeundefined
      o_lampe @csosa
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      @csosa Does the LED strip have any driver chips or a controller onboard? If not, you need some small FET drivers ( 1 Amp should do) between RGB-pins and expansion header. I have good experience with a 2$ quad driver board TB6612. (was 1$ before supply shortage)

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      • csosaundefined
        csosa @o_lampe
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        @o_lampe
        Thanks for the advice. The LEDs do not have a driver chips or a controller onboard. Could you please send me a link to the FET driver you recommended, cant seem to find it on Amazon. Would I need a divers for each color, RGBW?

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        • o_lampeundefined
          o_lampe @csosa
          last edited by o_lampe

          @csosa search for TB6612FNG
          You only need one for RGB

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          • csosaundefined
            csosa @o_lampe
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            @o_lampe

            Thank you for your help. I have never used a driver before so I am not sure how to wire it to the Duet and LEDs. The driver I got has the following pin descriptions:

            AIN1/AIN2: Control Signal input terminal
            BIN1/BIN2: Control Signal input terminal
            PWMA/PWMB: Control Signal input terminal
            A01/A02: Motor control output
            B01/B02: Motor control output
            STBY: normal working/standby state control pin
            VM: motor drive voltage
            VCC: logic level input terminal
            GND: ground

            Would the following wiring connections be correct?

            Left side of driver
            Empty----------->PWMA
            Heater pin 4-->AIN2
            Heater pin 5-->AIN1
            Empty----------->STBY
            Heater pin 6-->BIN1
            Heater pin 7-->BIN2
            Empty----------->PWMB
            Empty----------->GND

            Right Side of driver
            VM<-------- PSU 24v+
            VCC<------- LED 24V
            GND<------ PSU GND
            A01<--------LED R
            A02<--------LED G
            B02<--------LED B
            B01<--------LED W
            GND<-------Empty

            Thanks again for all your help.

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            • o_lampeundefined
              o_lampe @csosa
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              @csosa I must apologize, the fact you are using a 24V LED strip slipped my brain. The driver I proposed is good for only 12V 😞
              If you still can use it, you'd have to add at least one GND signal from Duet to driver if they don't use the same powersupply

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              • csosaundefined
                csosa @o_lampe
                last edited by

                @o_lampe
                According to the datasheet the TB6612FNG driver can handle an Input voltage between 2.7 V – 10.8 V. Could I instead use something like the Hilitand MOS FET PWM 3-20V to 3.7-27VDC 10A 4-Channel Driver Module PLC Amplifier Circuit Board ?

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                • o_lampeundefined
                  o_lampe @csosa
                  last edited by

                  @csosa Yes, this one looks better suited.

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                  • csosaundefined
                    csosa @o_lampe
                    last edited by

                    @o_lampe

                    Great! So based on the inputs/outputs of the driver would the wiring diagram below be the correct?

                    Hilitand Driver Module.JPG

                    Duet LED wiring.jpg

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                    • csosaundefined
                      csosa @csosa
                      last edited by csosa

                      @o_lampe

                      So the board arrived and I wired it just like in the image from my last post but the LEDs still don't work. I checked the voltage from each of the heater pins and they are all different.

                      Heater pin 4 -> 2.29v
                      Heater pin 5 -> 3.25v
                      Heater pin 6 -> 0.13v
                      Heater pin 7 -> 0.23v

                      To check if the board was working right I checked the voltage from pin 43 which is suppose to be 3.3v and it is working just fine.

                      Next I tried turning on and off the pin using the M42 P# S1 or M42 P# S0 and nothing happens, all the voltages stay the same.

                      I am at a lost and have no idea what I am doing wrong. Below is the section of my config.g code that controls the lights. I tried changing the Q value of the M950 command but that doesn't change anything.

                      ; Lights
                      M950 P5 C"exp.heater4" Q250 ; Assigns red to Pin 13
                      M950 P6 C"exp.heater5" Q250 ; Assigns green to Pin 18
                      M950 P7 C"exp.heater6" Q250 ; Assigns blue to Pin 23
                      M950 P8 C"exp.heater7" Q250 ; Assigns white to Pin 31
                      M42 P5 S0 ; Turn red LED off
                      M42 P6 S0 ; Turn green LED off
                      M42 P7 S0 ; Turn blue LED off
                      M42 P8 S0 ; Turn blue LED off

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                      • o_lampeundefined
                        o_lampe @csosa
                        last edited by

                        @csosa said in Connecting RGBW 24V LED strip to Duet 2 WIFi board:

                        ; Lights
                        M950 P5 C"exp.heater4" Q250 ; Assigns red to Pin 13

                        You can try and activate the internal pullup for the heater pins with '^' :

                        M950 P5 C"^exp.heater4" Q250 
                        
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                        • csosaundefined
                          csosa @o_lampe
                          last edited by

                          @o_lampe

                          I tried added '^' to all four heater pins and nothing changed.

                          I decided to test my board by enabling the pull up resistor '^' and inverting the input '!' to see how it affects the voltage. The results I got are shown below, as you can see the voltages are all over the place.

                          83ceea8e-cd5a-4e7f-87df-69d60a187763-image.png

                          I also tried added MT3608 DC boosters to the pins in hope that that might boost the voltage to 3.3v but every time I connect it, the voltage coming from the pins just drops.

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                          • o_lampeundefined
                            o_lampe @csosa
                            last edited by o_lampe

                            @csosa
                            That's confusing...are you sure about the GND pin you measured voltages against? Try using #pin2 from the expansion header.
                            Did you try to run M98 P"config.g" to see if any errors pop up?

                            Maybe there's an issue with using a heater output without defining a temp-sensor?
                            Anyone who can chime in here?

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                            • o_lampeundefined
                              o_lampe @o_lampe
                              last edited by

                              @o_lampe said in Connecting RGBW 24V LED strip to Duet 2 WIFi board:

                              Maybe there's an issue with using a heater output without defining a temp-sensor?

                              Something like

                              M950 H4 C"nil"   ;  undefine heater4 pin
                              M950 P4 C"exp.heater4" Q250
                              
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                              • csosaundefined
                                csosa @o_lampe
                                last edited by csosa

                                @o_lampe

                                I ran the M98 P"config.g" and got back the following

                                868b6dbf-6b4b-464d-8c4a-903b4ab421f0-image.png

                                I am not sure is FTP and TELNET are suppose to be enabled but other than that it doesn't look like there are any errors in config.g

                                I also switched the GND to pin 2 (which is normally connected to my BL Touch). I checked the voltage from all four wires and got the following.

                                3d9de993-2330-4d87-883f-4416f5935065-image.png

                                As you can see the voltage is all over the place expect for exp.heater7 which is working as it should. For heater pins 4 ,5 and 6 the voltage didn't change when I ran M42 P# S1.

                                While I was testing the last two wires (going to exp.heater6 and exp.heater7) my cooling fan started to turn on, the WIFI would disconnect and the diag. light would briefly flash. It did this a few time randomly so I unplugged all the wires going to the expansion pins. Now every time I turn it on it connects to WIFI but after a few minutes it disconnects and the diag. LED starts flashing.

                                Looks like I might have to erase the firmware and reinstall it before being able to test the "nil" function to undefine the heater pins.

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                                • o_lampeundefined
                                  o_lampe @csosa
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                                  @csosa
                                  Maybe the fan went on, because you've used the same P# in a fan declaration?
                                  I've tested all 5 heaters without "nil", mentioning that was just a last straw. In my case, they were real heaters, which can make a difference.

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                                  • o_lampeundefined
                                    o_lampe @csosa
                                    last edited by

                                    @csosa
                                    From the Wiki:

                                    M42 switches a general purpose I/O pin. Use M42 Px Sy to set pin x to value y. The S field may be in the range 0..1 or 0..255.
                                    

                                    How does M42 know that S1 isn't meant as 1 of 255 ?
                                    Answer: use S1.0 to tell it to switch on 100%

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                                    • csosaundefined
                                      csosa @o_lampe
                                      last edited by

                                      @o_lampe

                                      Since my board kept disconnecting from the wifi and the diag light start flashing. I erased the firmware and tried reinstall it again using Fallback procedure #2. I am not sure why but the firmware doesn't seem to install on the board, the diag light wont turn off. I'm using Bossa to write and verify the firmware, but afterwards the diag light wont turn off. Usually I'm able to just erase the board and reinstall the firmware using Bossa and later YAT to setup the WIFI and make updates but this time it doesn't look like Bossa is installing anything. I also tried installing the firmware using SAM-BA version 2.17 but it wouldn't connect either.

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                                      • o_lampeundefined
                                        o_lampe @csosa
                                        last edited by

                                        @csosa
                                        A last straw is to remove all wires, steppers, probes from the board and try Bossa again, but I'm afraid your controller is partially dead.
                                        It's probably time to put a new Duet board on your x-mas wishlist?

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                                        • csosaundefined
                                          csosa @o_lampe
                                          last edited by

                                          @o_lampe

                                          Sadly I think you are right 😭

                                          I did some research and I am thinking of ordering the Duet 3 mini 5+. Since it has a connector for the LED, hopefully it will be easier to set up.

                                          However according to duet guide the LEDs have to be NeoPixel in order to work. Do you think it is possible to get away with using another led strip that used the same WS2812 LED used by NeoPixel. I'm asking because BTF-LIGHTING have basically the same set up but are cheaper.

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                                          • o_lampeundefined
                                            o_lampe @csosa
                                            last edited by o_lampe

                                            @csosa
                                            I'm afraid the NeoPixel LED strip comes with a special interface, You'd still need 4 GPIO pins and the external driver board.
                                            The BTF strip uses the same it seems (but not tested)

                                            BTW: It's probably not a good time to buy LED strips....better wait until X-mas is over 😉

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