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    • 3DMakerKidundefined
      3DMakerKid
      last edited by

      Hello everyone, I have been running a Duet 3 MIni 5+ in my Bear for awhile and recently started getting this error, which doesn't sound very good to me. 15a6a9c5-857e-4512-bf3d-9ffd10145d88-image.png
      This happens seemingly randomly when a print ends and if I turn the printer off for about a day and come back, it's fine. Often accompanied by this error is the X or Y axis refusing to move and making an intermittent ticking sound (X is plugged into driver 0 and Y to drive 1). I have heard that there was an issue with a revision of the board awhile back with this issue, so I'm not sure if maybe my board was a part of that batch? I'm running this version of firmware "RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ 3.3 (2021-06-15)" according to DWC, which is version 3.3.0.

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @3DMakerKid
        last edited by

        @3dmakerkid said in Duet 3 Mini 5+ Short to Ground Error:

        I have heard that there was an issue with a revision of the board awhile back with this issue, so I'm not sure if maybe my board was a part of that batch?

        I think you may be referring to the Duet3 6HC which had a batch of bad diodes, but I don't think that affected the mini.

        Are you using stealthchop?

        Can you send M122 and share the result?

        @3dmakerkid said in Duet 3 Mini 5+ Short to Ground Error:

        Often accompanied by this error is the X or Y axis refusing to move and making an intermittent ticking sound (X is plugged into driver 0 and Y to drive 1).

        I assume you've checked out all the wiring?

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        • 3DMakerKidundefined
          3DMakerKid @Phaedrux
          last edited by

          @phaedrux I am using stealthchop, M122 result:

          === Diagnostics ===
          RepRapFirmware for Duet 3 Mini 5+ version 3.3 (2021-06-15 21:46:11) running on Duet 3 Mini5plus WiFi (standalone mode)
          Board ID: WB4NT-F096U-D65J0-40KM2-0Q03Z-ZJYMR
          Used output buffers: 3 of 40 (36 max)
          === RTOS ===
          Static ram: 102724
          Dynamic ram: 106092 of which 12 recycled
          Never used RAM 34876, free system stack 204 words
          Tasks: NETWORK(ready,15.0%,264) HEAT(delaying,0.0%,366) Move(notifyWait,0.1%,362) CanReceiv(notifyWait,0.0%,941) CanSender(notifyWait,0.0%,371) CanClock(delaying,0.0%,340) TMC(notifyWait,0.6%,115) MAIN(running,82.7%,426) IDLE(ready,0.7%,29) AIN(delaying,0.8%,274), total 100.0%
          Owned mutexes: WiFi(NETWORK)
          === Platform ===
          Last reset 00:00:37 ago, cause: power up
          Last software reset at 2022-01-06 21:02, reason: User, GCodes spinning, available RAM 31628, slot 0
          Software reset code 0x0003 HFSR 0x00000000 CFSR 0x00000000 ICSR 0x00000000 BFAR 0xe000ed38 SP 0x00000000 Task MAIN Freestk 0 n/a
          Error status: 0x00
          MCU revision 3, ADC conversions started 37895, completed 37895, timed out 0, errs 0
          Step timer max interval 1480
          MCU temperature: min 15.6, current 20.2, max 20.4
          Supply voltage: min 24.0, current 24.1, max 24.1, under voltage events: 0, over voltage events: 0, power good: yes
          Heap OK, handles allocated/used 0/0, heap memory allocated/used/recyclable 0/0/0, gc cycles 0
          Driver 0: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 10, reads 1959, writes 10, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
          Driver 1: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 9, reads 1959, writes 9, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
          Driver 2: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 9, reads 1959, writes 9, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
          Driver 3: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 9, reads 1959, writes 9, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
          Driver 4: position 0, standstill, SG min/max 0/0, read errors 0, write errors 0, ifcnt 10, reads 1958, writes 10, timeouts 0, DMA errors 0
          Driver 5: position 0, assumed not present
          Driver 6: position 0, assumed not present
          Date/time: 2022-01-07 17:26:56
          Cache data hit count 72624651
          Slowest loop: 6.64ms; fastest: 0.12ms
          === Storage ===
          Free file entries: 10
          SD card 0 detected, interface speed: 22.5MBytes/sec
          SD card longest read time 3.8ms, write time 0.0ms, max retries 0
          === Move ===
          DMs created 83, maxWait 0ms, bed compensation in use: none, comp offset 0.000
          === MainDDARing ===
          Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
          === AuxDDARing ===
          Scheduled moves 0, completed moves 0, hiccups 0, stepErrors 0, LaErrors 0, Underruns [0, 0, 0], CDDA state -1
          === Heat ===
          Bed heaters = 0 -1, chamberHeaters = -1 -1
          === GCodes ===
          Segments left: 0
          Movement lock held by null
          HTTP is idle in state(s) 0
          Telnet is idle in state(s) 0
          File is idle in state(s) 0
          USB is idle in state(s) 0
          Aux is idle in state(s) 0
          Trigger is idle in state(s) 0
          Queue is idle in state(s) 0
          LCD is idle in state(s) 0
          SBC is idle in state(s) 0
          Daemon is idle in state(s) 0
          Aux2 is idle in state(s) 0
          Autopause is idle in state(s) 0
          Code queue is empty.
          === CAN ===
          Messages queued 338, received 0, lost 0, longest wait 0ms for reply type 0, peak Tx sync delay 0, free buffers 17 (min 17), ts 189/0/0
          Tx timeouts 0,0,188,0,0,148 last cancelled message type 4514 dest 127
          
          === Network ===
          Slowest loop: 27.87ms; fastest: 0.00ms
          Responder states: HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) HTTP(0) FTP(0) Telnet(0), 0 sessions
          HTTP sessions: 1 of 8
          - WiFi -
          Network state is active
          WiFi module is connected to access point 
          Failed messages: pending 0, notready 0, noresp 0
          WiFi firmware version 1.26
          WiFi MAC address f0:08:d1:02:e6:60
          WiFi Vcc 3.40, reset reason Power up
          WiFi flash size 2097152, free heap 24672
          WiFi IP address 192.168.86.30
          WiFi signal strength -47dBm, mode 802.11n, reconnections 0, sleep mode modem
          Clock register 00002002
          Socket states: 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0```
          
          I have checked over wiring and even replaced motors several times.
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          • Phaedruxundefined
            Phaedrux Moderator @3DMakerKid
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            @3dmakerkid said in Duet 3 Mini 5+ Short to Ground Error:

            I am using stealthchop

            Post config?

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            • 3DMakerKidundefined
              3DMakerKid @Phaedrux
              last edited by

              @phaedrux Apologies

              ; executed by the firmware on start-up
              ;
              ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.2.3 on Wed Jun 30 2021 18:28:51 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
              
              ; General preferences
              G90                                          ; send absolute coordinates...
              M83                                          ; ...but relative extruder moves
              M550 P"Hermione"                   ; set printer name
              
              ; Network
              M552 S1                                      ; enable network
              M586 P0 S1                                   ; enable HTTP
              M586 P1 S0                                   ; disable FTP
              M586 P2 S0                                   ; disable Telnet
              M587 I192.168.86.24
              
              ; Drives
              M569 P0.0 S1 D3 V0                                 ; physical drive 0.0 goes forwards
              M569 P0.1 S0 D3 V0                                ; physical drive 0.1 goes forwards
              M569 P0.2 S0 D3 V0                                ; physical drive 0.2 goes forwards
              M569 P0.3 S0                                 ; physical drive 0.3 goes forwards
              M569 P0.4 S0 D3 V0
              M584 X0 Y1 Z2:4 E3                           ; two Z motors connected to driver outputs Z and E1
              M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                      ; configure microstepping with interpolation
              M92 X100.00 Y100.00 Z400.00 E409.00         ; set steps per mm
              M566 X900.00 Y900.00 Z60.00 E120.00          ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
              M203 X15000.00 Y15000.00 Z300.00 E1200.00      ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
              M201 X4000.00 Y4000.00 Z120.00 E250.00          ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
              M906 X800 Y800 Z400 E600 I30                 ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
              M84 X Y E0 S30                                      ; Set idle timeout
              
              M671 X-10:240 Y0:0 S3 ; leadscrews at left (connected to Z) and right (connected to E1) of X axis
              
              ; Axis Limits
              M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                             ; set axis minima
              M208 X240 Y205 Z210 S0                       ; set axis maxima
              
              ; Endstops
              M574 X1 S3                                   ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on X
              M574 Y1 S3                                   ; configure sensorless endstop for low end on Y
              
              
              ; Z-Probe
              M558 P5 C"^io2.out" H2 F600 T6000 A3             				; Prusa PindaV2 Endstop
              M308 S2 P"temp2" A"Pinda V2" Y"thermistor" T100000 B3950      		; Prusa PindaV2 Thermistor
              G31 P1000 X-35.75 Y-18.7 Z.68                                  				; Nozzle offset
              M574 Z1 S2                                                 			; Set Z axis endstop, controlled by probe
              M557 X0:180 Y0:180 P3                                    			; Define mesh grid for probing
              M376 H2																; Fade height 5mm
              M564 S0 ;
                             
              
              ; Heaters
              M308 S0 P"temp0" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin temp0
              M950 H0 C"out0" T0                           ; create bed heater output on out0 and map it to sensor 0
              M307 H0 B0 S1.00                             ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
              M140 H0                                      ; map heated bed to heater 0
              M143 H0 S120								 ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 120C
               M307 H0 B0 R0.274 C426.1 D11.33 S1.00 V24.0   ; control parameters for H0
              M308 S1 P"temp1" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin temp1
              M950 H1 C"out1" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on out1 and map it to sensor 1
              M307 H1 B0 R2.203 C200.0:140.4 D5.77 S1.00 V24.1                             ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
              M143 H1 S280                                 ; set temperature limit for heater 1 to 280C
              
              ; Fans
              M950 F0 C"out5" Q500 ;
              M106 P0 C"Part Cooling" S0 H-1 ;
              ;
              M950 F1 C"out6" Q500 ;
              M106 P1 C"Hotend" S1 H1 T45 ;
              ;
              
              ; Tools
              M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                           ; define tool 0
              G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                              ; set tool 0 axis offsets
              G10 P0 R0 S0                                 ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
              
              
              
              
              ; Custom settings are not defined```
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              • Phaedruxundefined
                Phaedrux Moderator
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                I think it may be related to stealthchop. Can you test with spreadcycle for a while?

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                • 3DMakerKidundefined
                  3DMakerKid @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @phaedrux Yes, I can.

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                  • 3DMakerKidundefined
                    3DMakerKid @3DMakerKid
                    last edited by

                    @3dmakerkid actually, Does sensorless homing require stealthchop to be on? I can't seem to recall

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                    • Phaedruxundefined
                      Phaedrux Moderator
                      last edited by

                      I think stallguard works with stealthchop, but I don't think you need stallguard configured to use stealthchop.

                      Additionally, the TMC2209 stepper driver used in Duet 3 Mini 5+ (and Duet 3 Tool board TOOL1LC once stallGuard is implemented in firmware), features stallGuard 4. This is optimised for operation with stealthChop, while its predecessor stallGuard 2 (TMC5160 and TMC2260) works with spreadCycle. You will need to adjust the speed at which stealthChop changes over to spreadCycle. This is set by M569 V parameter. The default is 2000.

                      https://duet3d.dozuki.com/Wiki/Stall_detection_and_sensorless_homing

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                      • 3DMakerKidundefined
                        3DMakerKid @Phaedrux
                        last edited by

                        @phaedrux Ok, I'm using sensorless homing on this printer and it looks like it can't be used with spreadcycle, as I found out here https://teamgloomy.github.io/sensorless.html .

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator
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                          Well you'd switch between as needed I guess.

                          Stealthchop isn't really recommended for printing unless you're limiting your speed and acceleration due to the loss of torque in exchange for absolute quiet.

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                          • 3DMakerKidundefined
                            3DMakerKid @Phaedrux
                            last edited by

                            @phaedrux It's now doing the same thing as before except just when the machine is powered on instead of after a print, and I changed nothing. So I'm not sure how much switching stealthchop off is going to help in this case.

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                            • Phaedruxundefined
                              Phaedrux Moderator
                              last edited by

                              As we can't rule out whether there is an error with the stepper or not, we will replace the board under warranty.

                              Please send an email to warranty@duet3d.com and CC your reseller. Include a link to this forum thread and the details of your original purchase. You'll receive a reply with a form to fill out.

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                              • 3DMakerKidundefined
                                3DMakerKid
                                last edited by

                                @phaedrux You guys are awesome, I'll get that done as soon as I can!

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