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    T3P3Tony administrators @oozeBot
    last edited by 1 Oct 2020, 18:04

    @oozeBot if you just want present/not present then a simple switch does the job.

    For it to work ok far from the extruder the path needs to be constrained, that means on a retract the extruder needs to push the filament all the way back up the feed tube past the sensor. That means retracts may not be able to be as fast.

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      oozeBot @T3P3Tony
      last edited by oozeBot 10 Feb 2020, 00:19 2 Oct 2020, 00:17

      @T3P3Tony what I like about the idea of using your magnetic filament monitor instead is that, for any reason, it stops spinning, I can conclude something is wrong and the print must be stopped.

      A switch can’t do that.. all it can do is detect a runout.

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        BoA
        last edited by 2 Oct 2020, 05:36

        Best is to have both - filament monitor with switch. This solves one problem (at least for me) - when runout is detected by filament monitor filament end tip is too far, and extruder can not push back enough filament to take it out of tube. Switch has the advantage that it reacts basically immediately.

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          T3P3Tony administrators @oozeBot
          last edited by 2 Oct 2020, 08:10

          @oozeBot yes absolutely but for that to be most use it needs to be close enough to the extruder to react in an appropriate time so.

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            oozeBot @T3P3Tony
            last edited by 2 Oct 2020, 11:18

            @T3P3Tony @BoA - thanks. I see your point. I guess I've never really worried about trying to retract out of the tube in these conditions as it's a manual job to fix the issue anyways..

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              BoA @oozeBot
              last edited by 2 Oct 2020, 11:20

              @oozeBot Fix issues - yes. But simple filament runout detection? Imo in case filament runout detected, it would be nice that extruder is able to push back what is in the tube up to the point, that this leftover can be pulled out by fingers without disconnecting bowden (reversed bowden in my case).

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                PCR
                last edited by 7 Oct 2020, 15:02

                @T3P3Tony quick question. Can i supply the sensor with 5V?

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                  PCR
                  last edited by 8 Oct 2020, 07:53

                  @T3P3Tony i saw that the AtTiny44 will handle 5V. Does the Magnetic Sensor aswell? I will try to use the Sensor on a BTT SKR Board πŸ˜‰

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                    T3P3Tony administrators
                    last edited by 8 Oct 2020, 08:55

                    There is a cuttable jumper on the back of the filament monitor marked 3.3v:

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                    If you use a small drill bit to carefully remove the connection between the two pads then the sensor will operate in 5V mode. I would test that the pads are actually disconnected by checking that there is no continuity between them with a voltmeter.

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                      PCR @T3P3Tony
                      last edited by 9 Jan 2022, 20:01

                      @t3p3tony just FYI. It's not noted in the wiki πŸ˜‰ would be nice to do! πŸ™‚

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