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    • AlcoMattundefined
      AlcoMatt
      last edited by

      So recently I updated RRF to V3.3 (form 3.1.1) on my Duet 2 WiFi. Since update (first print), without changing configuration files (only changed amount of probing number), probe started randomly deploying itself, sometimes it just deploys , sometimes it deploys and retracts like mad. It was working fine for more than year and a half. It happens only when I setup print and printer is heating, usually it deploys once midheat and stays like that untill z-homing. When I don't start print, but manually set heating (bed and hotend) probe starts delpoying and retracting like mad. So far, probe never deployed while printing.
      I'm marking it as firmware thing, since it happend just after update while hardware setup should be fine.

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      • Phaedruxundefined
        Phaedrux Moderator @AlcoMatt
        last edited by

        @alcomatt said in BL Touch randomly deploys itself after update.:

        t happens only when I setup print and printer is heating, usually it deploys once midheat and stays like that untill z-homing. When I don't start print, but manually set heating (bed and hotend) probe starts delpoying and retracting like mad.

        Sounds like interference. Are the bltouch wires running closely to the heater wires?

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        • AlcoMattundefined
          AlcoMatt @Phaedrux
          last edited by

          @phaedrux Well, bltouch wires are parallel to hotend heater, but it happens at stage when bed is being heated, while wires from heating bed are routed different way. When I turn on hotend heater (but only manually) it gets worse. Another thing is that before PID starts working (before being close to set temperature), as far as I know, there should be only DC current that shouldn't cause any interferences. Also it's working like that for months without any issues and such problem doesn't occur while printing.

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            • Phaedruxundefined
              Phaedrux Moderator
              last edited by

              well one way to check if it's firmware would be to roll back to your previous version.

              What kind of bed heater is it?

              Can you post your full config?

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              • AlcoMattundefined
                AlcoMatt @Phaedrux
                last edited by

                @phaedrux It's classic aluminium pcb bed heater similar to one from picture below.
                867c7822-5106-42eb-b09d-fda1c3ba5f78-obraz.png

                My config is

                ; Configuration file for Duet WiFi (firmware version 3)
                ; executed by the firmware on start-up
                ;
                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Sun Oct 04 2020 13:36:35 GMT+0200 (czas środkowoeuropejski letni)
                
                ; General preferences
                G90                                            ; send absolute coordinates...
                M83                                            ; ...but relative extruder moves
                M550 P"notreallyaprintername"                        ; set printer name
                M669 K1                                        ; select CoreXY mode
                
                ; Network
                M552 S1                                        ; enable network
                M586 P0 S1                                     ; enable HTTP
                M586 P1 S0                                     ; disable FTP
                M586 P2 S0                                     ; disable Telnet
                
                ; Drives
                M569 P0 S1                                     ; physical drive 0 goes forwards
                M569 P1 S1                                     ; physical drive 1 goes forwards
                M569 P2 S1                                     ; physical drive 2 goes forwards
                M569 P3 S1                                     ; physical drive 3 goes forwards
                M584 X0 Y1 Z2 E3                               ; set drive mapping
                M350 X16 Y16 Z16 E16 I1                        ; configure microstepping with interpolation
                M92 X100.00 Y100.00 Z400.00 E415.00            ; set steps per mm
                M566 X600.00 Y600.00 Z12.00 E270.00            ; set maximum instantaneous speed changes (mm/min)
                M203 X15000.00 Y15000.00 Z720.00 E7200.00      ; set maximum speeds (mm/min)
                M201 X2500.00 Y2500.00 Z500.00 E5000.00         ; set accelerations (mm/s^2)
                M906 X700 Y700 Z550 E700 I30                   ; set motor currents (mA) and motor idle factor in per cent
                M84 S30                                        ; Set idle timeout
                
                ; Axis Limits
                M208 X0 Y0 Z0 S1                               ; set axis minima
                M208 X200 Y200 Z200 S0                         ; set axis maxima
                
                ; Endstops
                M574 X1 S1 P"xstop"                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on X via pin xstop
                M574 Y2 S1 P"ystop"                            ; configure active-high endstop for low end on Y via pin ystop
                M574 Z2 S2 
                
                ; Z-Probe
                M950 S0 C"exp.heater3"    
                M558 P9 C"^zprobe.in" H5 F120 T6000 A3           ; set Z probe type to bltouch and the dive height + speeds
                G31 P500 X30 Y0 Z0.88    	                   ; set Z probe trigger value, offset and trigger height Z0.77  
                M557 X15:180 Y15:200 S20                       ; define mesh grid
                
                ; Heaters
                M308 S0 P"bedtemp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138 ; configure sensor 0 as thermistor on pin bedtemp
                M950 H0 C"bedheat" T0                          ; create bed heater output on bedheat and map it to sensor 0
                M307 H0 B1 S1.00                               ; enable bang-bang mode for the bed heater and set PWM limit
                M140 H0                                        ; map heated bed to heater 0
                M143 H0 S100                                   ; set temperature limit for heater 0 to 100C
                M308 S1 P"e0temp" Y"thermistor" T100000 B4138  ; configure sensor 1 as thermistor on pin e0temp
                M950 H1 C"e0heat" T1                           ; create nozzle heater output on e0heat and map it to sensor 1
                M307 H1 B0 S1.00                               ; disable bang-bang mode for heater  and set PWM limit
                
                ; Fans
                M950 F0 C"fan0" Q500                           ; create fan 0 on pin fan0 and set its frequency
                M106 P0 S0 H-1                                 ; set fan 0 value. Thermostatic control is turned off
                M950 F1 C"fan1" Q500                           ; create fan 1 on pin fan1 and set its frequency
                M106 P1 S1 H1 T45                              ; set fan 1 value. Thermostatic control is turned on
                
                ; Tools
                M563 P0 D0 H1 F0                        ; define tool 0
                G10 P0 X0 Y0 Z0                         ; set tool 0 axis offsets
                G10 P0 R0 S0                            ; set initial tool 0 active and standby temperatures to 0C
                
                ; Custom settings
                M572 D0 S0.075			; pressure advance S0.075		@0.6 S0.048
                
                ;LED
                M950 P2 C"e1heat" ; led
                
                ;load data
                M501;
                
                ; deployprobe.g
                ; called to deploy a physical Z probe
                ;
                ; generated by RepRapFirmware Configuration Tool v3.1.4 on Sun Oct 04 2020 13:36:35 GMT+0200 (czas środkowoeuropejski letni)
                ; insert codes for deploying the Z probe here
                M280 P0 S10 I1  ; deploy BLTouch
                
                

                Will try doing roll back in free time and see results.

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                • AlcoMattundefined
                  AlcoMatt @Phaedrux
                  last edited by

                  @phaedrux said in BL Touch randomly deploys itself after update.:

                  well one way to check if it's firmware would be to roll back to your previous version.

                  What kind of bed heater is it?

                  Can you post your full config?

                  So I tried downgrading to 3.1.1, checked also 3.2 and 3.2.2 - everything works fine as it should. After updating to 3.3 problem occurs immediately.

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                  • Phaedruxundefined
                    Phaedrux Moderator @AlcoMatt
                    last edited by

                    @alcomatt said in BL Touch randomly deploys itself after update.:

                    M280 P0 S10 I1

                    I don't see anything wrong with your config other than the deploy and retract macros don't need I1 on the M280 command.

                    @alcomatt said in BL Touch randomly deploys itself after update.:

                    When I don't start print, but manually set heating (bed and hotend) probe starts delpoying and retracting like mad.

                    This part is very strange. Makes me think interference, but I'm not sure why the behaviour would change with fw 3.3.

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                    • AlcoMattundefined
                      AlcoMatt @Phaedrux
                      last edited by

                      @phaedrux If it's necessary I can do video showing the problem. I might also try updating to 3.4 beta and see results.

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                      • carlossprundefined
                        carlosspr
                        last edited by

                        I am facing the same problem with Release 3.4.2rc1. Did you solve the issue?.
                        For me it prints OK, but if I heat the bed manually the probe deploys/retract like mad.

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                        • Phaedruxundefined
                          Phaedrux Moderator @carlosspr
                          last edited by

                          @carlosspr said in BL Touch randomly deploys itself after update.:

                          if I heat the bed manually the probe deploys/retract like mad.

                          That definitely sounds like interference.

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                          • Okeanosundefined
                            Okeanos @Phaedrux
                            last edited by Okeanos

                            @Phaedrux Hi you need to install capacitor 10uf for gnd and signal. I had the same issue with and 3dTouch sensor and saw this the same with BLTouch sensor.

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