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    • clearlynotstefundefined
      clearlynotstef
      last edited by clearlynotstef

      Hi Friends. I want to give the Phaetus Rapido UHF a shot on my delta. It looked like it has the same mounting screws as the mosquito, so I bought the 713 Maker mosquito adapter which indeed fits, but the 4 bolts to attach the hotend are the point of contact with the bottom of the effector and would obviously focus the pressure of probing in 4 spots rather than dispersed across the effector. Any idea if this will be a problem? Should I put the red washer under the effector? Should I get a second red washer and put one on each side? Could I use a more easily sourced steel washer on one side (which?). It's a v3 effector so less prone to trace damage I believe. I'm open to any thoughts on how you'd approach!

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      • dc42undefined
        dc42 administrators @clearlynotstef
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        @clearlynotstef in your position I think I would print a plastic spacer with recesses for the screw heads.

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        • clearlynotstefundefined
          clearlynotstef @dc42
          last edited by clearlynotstef

          @dc42 thanks for weighing in! interesting, though the hotend is already shorter than the v6 so I'm not in a rush to get it raised further by offsetting the screw height (already tight under there for fans), thoughts on a flat washer resting on the 4 screws? If it's rigid plastic/metal the four screws should transfer force to the effector pretty evenly I'd think? Could I get away with a metal washer on one or both sides? I wouldn't dream it on my v2 but it doesn't look like there's any traces near where the washer would be anyway? If I should use plastic, I have an extra red one from a prior effector, would one on each end work?

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          • Dougal1957undefined
            Dougal1957 @clearlynotstef
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            @clearlynotstef said in Phaetus Hotend/ 713 Adapter? [Pic]:

            Hi Friends. I want to give the Phaetus Rapido UHF a shot on my delta. It looked like it has the same mounting screws as the mosquito, so I bought the 713 Maker mosquito adapter which indeed fits, but the 4 bolts to attach the hotend are the point of contact with the bottom of the effector and would obviously focus the pressure of probing in 4 spots rather than dispersed across the effector. Any idea if this will be a problem? Should I put the red washer under the effector? Should I get a second red washer and put one on each side? Could I use a more easily sourced steel washer on one side (which?). It's a v3 effector so less prone to trace damage I believe. I'm open to any thoughts on how you'd approach!

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            https://i.imgur.com/xvOxiZR_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

            I think you are only supposed to use 2 screws with that adaptor as there are I believe 2 counter bored holes just for that purpose.

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            • clearlynotstefundefined
              clearlynotstef @Dougal1957
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              @dougal1957 doesn't align with the hotend holes, only the outside holes would align

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              • engikeneerundefined
                engikeneer @clearlynotstef
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                @clearlynotstef dc42 is suggesting printing a washer with little protrusions that extend down to the flange. So instead of tightening against the top of the bolt heads, you tighten against the silver flange.

                If you just put the red washer on top of the bolts it will probably localise the pressure a bit as you have said. Also bolt heads aren't always the same height so you may not get equal clamping on all sides.

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                • clearlynotstefundefined
                  clearlynotstef @engikeneer
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                  @engikeneer I know what he's proposing. I'd prefer to avoid printed adapters. Rigid plastic washers are working well.

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                  • Dougal1957undefined
                    Dougal1957 @clearlynotstef
                    last edited by Dougal1957

                    @clearlynotstef said in Phaetus Hotend/ 713 Adapter? [Pic]:

                    @dougal1957 doesn't align with the hotend holes, only the outside holes would align

                    I guessed that would be the issue however I am informed by a friend that if you speak to 713maker he will do custom work and for him to just counterbore 4 additional holes shouldn't be a big for him also have you tried using button head screws instead of cap screws that would reduce the hight of the heads considerably and may allow for the 12mm collar to actually seat in the effector and locate it all.

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