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3.4.0beta7 - RC2 overheating when the model fan is turned on

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    Del87
    last edited by 25 Feb 2022, 06:41

    There are some strange behavior on heater when the model fan turns on high/low speed.
    Firmware 3.4.0beta6 - straight line temperature, maximum deviation +0.5 degree when model fan 100%.
    Firmware 3.4.0beta7-3.4.0RC2 - +1 degree on 2-3 layers of the model (fan 15-30%). +2 degree when model fan 100%.
    PID calibration new/old doesnt matter - same behavior.
    Duet 3 mini 5+ Pt1000
    And a small note: same models printed 3.4.0beta6 - no messages about driver0 stuck , 3.4.0RC2 - there was messages. I use sensorless homing, is there some changes mentioned in upgrade notes?

    Dmitry

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      Phaedrux Moderator
      last edited by 25 Feb 2022, 19:26

      Can you give us some more information on your setup. Heaters, etc.

      Can you share your config.g and your PID tune values?

      What is the exact driver error message?

      Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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        A Former User @Del87
        last edited by 26 Feb 2022, 06:30

        @del87 said in 3.4.0beta7 - RC2 overheating when the model fan is turned on:

        There are some strange behavior on heater when the model fan turns on high/low speed.
        Firmware 3.4.0beta6 - straight line temperature, maximum deviation +0.5 degree when model fan 100%.
        Firmware 3.4.0beta7-3.4.0RC2 - +1 degree on 2-3 layers of the model (fan 15-30%). +2 degree when model fan 100%.
        PID calibration new/old doesnt matter - same behavior.
        Duet 3 mini 5+ Pt1000
        And a small note: same models printed 3.4.0beta6 - no messages about driver0 stuck , 3.4.0RC2 - there was messages. I use sensorless homing, is there some changes mentioned in upgrade notes?

        About same issue for me with the RC1, look here: https://forum.duet3d.com/topic/27533/temperatures-totally-wrong

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          Del87 @Phaedrux
          last edited by 26 Feb 2022, 10:58

          @phaedrux
          All pid tuning by M303 T0 S235
          Pid parameters after tuning on firmware RC2:
          M307 H1 R2.017 K0.304:0.121 D5.56 E1.35 S1.00 B0 V23.8
          Old parameters firmware beta6 (works great):
          M307 H1 R2.096 C266.944:211.319 D5.59 S1.00 V23.9 B0 I0
          config.g

          I guess it is all about the model fan cooling compensation, beta6 perfect for me, later ones are much worse.

          driver0 a lot of reports about stall detection on one Z height (didn't copy it). Old firmware - no reports, same gcode.

          Dmitry

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            Dogma2k
            last edited by 26 Feb 2022, 11:34

            And the same i said here
            https://forum.duet3d.com/post/270688

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              Del87
              last edited by Del87 3 Nov 2022, 17:08 11 Mar 2022, 07:21

              3.4.rc2+2 pid works stable. But the problem with driver stuck is actual. There was the message about driver 0 and 1 (X Y) stuck then motor Y (h-bot configuration) stopped working. Firmware 3.4.beta6 no messages, no problems with stucks, sensorless homing, motors.

              What changes in motor/driver or sensorless settings was made after beta6 firmware?

              dbb83800-6e7c-49a6-b407-1c798261703d-image.png

              no such messages on firmware 3.4.beta6.

              Dmitry

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                Del87
                last edited by Del87 3 Nov 2022, 18:16 11 Mar 2022, 18:14

                some new investigations:
                G28 via console - no error messages
                G28 in gcode (only one command). Error messages after this gcode start printing.

                f4d6f391-6a47-408d-8e3f-3fa244d9159c-image.png

                homeall.g

                Dmitry

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                  Phaedrux Moderator @Del87
                  last edited by 11 Mar 2022, 19:14

                  @del87 Can you start a new thread with your details for this issue?

                  Z-Bot CoreXY Build | Thingiverse Profile

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                    Del87 @Phaedrux
                    last edited by 11 Mar 2022, 22:42

                    @phaedrux okay

                    Dmitry

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