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    • Stephen6309undefined
      Stephen6309 @Superbrain8
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      @superbrain8 Does X endstop show NOT triggered when the endstop is not depressed?

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      • Superbrain8undefined
        Superbrain8 @Stephen6309
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        @stephen6309 shows as not triggered

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        • Superbrain8undefined
          Superbrain8 @fcwilt
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          @fcwilt will try

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          • Superbrain8undefined
            Superbrain8 @fcwilt
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            @fcwilt didnt worked out, behavior persists.

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            • fcwiltundefined
              fcwilt @Superbrain8
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              @superbrain8 said in Unreliable Homing in one Axis:

              @fcwilt didnt worked out, behavior persists.

              OK.

              What sort of endstop sensors are you using?

              Frederick

              Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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              • Superbrain8undefined
                Superbrain8 @fcwilt
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                @fcwilt Inductive endstops that come with the Artillery Sidewinder.

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                • fcwiltundefined
                  fcwilt @Superbrain8
                  last edited by fcwilt

                  @superbrain8 said in Unreliable Homing in one Axis:

                  @fcwilt Inductive endstops that come with the Artillery Sidewinder.

                  OK.

                  Since it appears to be a intermittent problem I would next see if the leads of the sensor are running close to the leads to a stepper motor.

                  It might be noise induced into the sensor leads.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                  • Superbrain8undefined
                    Superbrain8 @fcwilt
                    last edited by Superbrain8

                    @fcwilt probably is the issue, replaced the ribbon cable itself with individual wires, but i guess i have to optimize this more
                    (issue was present with the stock ribbon cable connecting the axis to the base, from there to the mainboard)
                    the thing is this issue was not present while running Marlin and klipper

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                    • fcwiltundefined
                      fcwilt @Superbrain8
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                      @superbrain8 said in Unreliable Homing in one Axis:

                      the thing is this issue was not present while running Marlin and klipper

                      Possibly the Duet firmware has a quicker response time OR the other firmware has "de-bounce code" which can also help with ignoring transients.

                      Only @dc42 would know.

                      Frederick

                      Printers: a E3D MS/TC setup and a RatRig Hybrid. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                      • Superbrain8undefined
                        Superbrain8 @fcwilt
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                        @fcwilt ok thanks,
                        will look into rerouting some of the wire and see if it will improve the situation.

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                        • jay_s_ukundefined
                          jay_s_uk @Superbrain8
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                          @superbrain8 we've had a number of users with the sidewinder where endstops have been an issue as well as the wagster mod for the bltouch causing the pin to randomly deploy. its definitely the dodgy ribbon used for wiring.

                          Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                          • Superbrain8undefined
                            Superbrain8 @jay_s_uk
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                            @jay_s_uk this solves another issue, thanks for the reply.
                            yea the ribbon sucks, replaced it with individual wires, but i have to tweak this a bit, rn there is to much crosstalk. will have to change some stuff, but im looking forward towards this.

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                            • dc42undefined
                              dc42 administrators
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                              @superbrain8 does the ribbon cable carry motor wires as well as the endstop wires?

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                              • jay_s_ukundefined
                                jay_s_uk @dc42
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                                @dc42 yes it does

                                Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                                • dc42undefined
                                  dc42 administrators @jay_s_uk
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                                  @jay_s_uk said in Unreliable Homing in one Axis:

                                  @dc42 yes it does

                                  Bad idea! Might possibly be workable if there are some ground conductors between the motor wires and the endstop wires.

                                  Maybe he could split the ribbon cable between the motor conductors and the endstop conductors, then keep the two parts of the ribbon cable separate.

                                  Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                                  Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                                  http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                  • Superbrain8undefined
                                    Superbrain8 @dc42
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                                    @dc42 will be a non issue for me in the future, im working on replacing the entire ribbon cable due to its limitations.
                                    will run individual wires, just have to seperate them properly so they wont be close to stepper motor or other higher current wires.

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