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    Superbrain8 @Stephen6309
    last edited by Superbrain8 26 Feb 2022, 15:23

    @stephen6309 shows as not triggered

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      Superbrain8 @fcwilt
      last edited by 26 Feb 2022, 15:23

      @fcwilt will try

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        Superbrain8 @fcwilt
        last edited by 26 Feb 2022, 15:24

        @fcwilt didnt worked out, behavior persists.

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          fcwilt @Superbrain8
          last edited by 26 Feb 2022, 15:35

          @superbrain8 said in Unreliable Homing in one Axis:

          @fcwilt didnt worked out, behavior persists.

          OK.

          What sort of endstop sensors are you using?

          Frederick

          Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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            Superbrain8 @fcwilt
            last edited by 26 Feb 2022, 15:38

            @fcwilt Inductive endstops that come with the Artillery Sidewinder.

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              fcwilt @Superbrain8
              last edited by fcwilt 26 Feb 2022, 16:51

              @superbrain8 said in Unreliable Homing in one Axis:

              @fcwilt Inductive endstops that come with the Artillery Sidewinder.

              OK.

              Since it appears to be a intermittent problem I would next see if the leads of the sensor are running close to the leads to a stepper motor.

              It might be noise induced into the sensor leads.

              Frederick

              Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                Superbrain8 @fcwilt
                last edited by Superbrain8 26 Feb 2022, 16:57

                @fcwilt probably is the issue, replaced the ribbon cable itself with individual wires, but i guess i have to optimize this more
                (issue was present with the stock ribbon cable connecting the axis to the base, from there to the mainboard)
                the thing is this issue was not present while running Marlin and klipper

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                  fcwilt @Superbrain8
                  last edited by 26 Feb 2022, 17:17

                  @superbrain8 said in Unreliable Homing in one Axis:

                  the thing is this issue was not present while running Marlin and klipper

                  Possibly the Duet firmware has a quicker response time OR the other firmware has "de-bounce code" which can also help with ignoring transients.

                  Only @dc42 would know.

                  Frederick

                  Printers: a small Utilmaker style, a small CoreXY and a E3D MS/TC setup. Various hotends. Using Duet 3 hardware running 3.4.6

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                    Superbrain8 @fcwilt
                    last edited by 26 Feb 2022, 17:30

                    @fcwilt ok thanks,
                    will look into rerouting some of the wire and see if it will improve the situation.

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                      jay_s_uk @Superbrain8
                      last edited by 26 Feb 2022, 17:38

                      @superbrain8 we've had a number of users with the sidewinder where endstops have been an issue as well as the wagster mod for the bltouch causing the pin to randomly deploy. its definitely the dodgy ribbon used for wiring.

                      Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                        Superbrain8 @jay_s_uk
                        last edited by 27 Feb 2022, 06:59

                        @jay_s_uk this solves another issue, thanks for the reply.
                        yea the ribbon sucks, replaced it with individual wires, but i have to tweak this a bit, rn there is to much crosstalk. will have to change some stuff, but im looking forward towards this.

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                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by 27 Feb 2022, 07:07

                          @superbrain8 does the ribbon cable carry motor wires as well as the endstop wires?

                          Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                          Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                          http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                            jay_s_uk @dc42
                            last edited by 27 Feb 2022, 07:08

                            @dc42 yes it does

                            Owns various duet boards and is the main wiki maintainer for the Teamgloomy LPC/STM32 port of RRF. Assume I'm running whatever the latest beta/stable build is

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                              dc42 administrators @jay_s_uk
                              last edited by 27 Feb 2022, 07:16

                              @jay_s_uk said in Unreliable Homing in one Axis:

                              @dc42 yes it does

                              Bad idea! Might possibly be workable if there are some ground conductors between the motor wires and the endstop wires.

                              Maybe he could split the ribbon cable between the motor conductors and the endstop conductors, then keep the two parts of the ribbon cable separate.

                              Duet WiFi hardware designer and firmware engineer
                              Please do not ask me for Duet support via PM or email, use the forum
                              http://www.escher3d.com, https://miscsolutions.wordpress.com

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                                Superbrain8 @dc42
                                last edited by 27 Feb 2022, 11:13

                                @dc42 will be a non issue for me in the future, im working on replacing the entire ribbon cable due to its limitations.
                                will run individual wires, just have to seperate them properly so they wont be close to stepper motor or other higher current wires.

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