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    • dc42undefined
      dc42 administrators
      last edited by

      I'm sorry, I misread your post. The three white LEDs should be on whenever the heatsink fan is on. If the heatsink fan runs but the LEDs do not light up then there are two possibilities:

      1. You have the hot end heatsink fan + and - terminals on the 6-way connector swapped, and you also have the + and - terminals of the 2-pin hot end heatsink fan connector swapped. Check that the red fan wire goes to the pin labelled + on the effector PCB.

      2. One of the LEDs (or possibly the series resistor) is faulty or has been damaged.

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      • Cinproundefined
        Cinpro
        last edited by

        Has to be option 2 then, all the power and heater wires check out 😞

        check each led to ground going around starting closest to the main plug till I find the break sound like a plan? I have a hot air soldering station and a syringe of solder paste. I'm untested on it, but it looks pretty straight forward.

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        • dc42undefined
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          Look at the LEDs and their soldering first to see if you can spot a problem. If not, try measuring the voltage across each LED when they should be on. If you find one with 12V or 24V across it, that one is open circuit.

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          • Cinproundefined
            Cinpro
            last edited by

            since I was taking things apart on another project I took the time to measure the voltage at the LEDs. I have them reading 0.6 1.1 and 1.5

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            • dc42undefined
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              I'm guessing that those readings are between the anode of each LED and the negative supply. Is that correct? What supply voltage are you using? The LEDs are designed for a 12V or 24V supply to the hot end fan, depending on the position of the jumper. 5V will not be enough to light them.

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              • Cinproundefined
                Cinpro
                last edited by

                24v supply, I read to the left and right of each LED, I'll see if I can find my alligator clips and read between a fan negative and the LEDS, and update.

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                • Cinproundefined
                  Cinpro
                  last edited by

                  all are @ 1.5v or less

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                  • dc42undefined
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                    I suspect there is a fault in your effector. If you look at the schematic at https://github.com/T3P3/SmartEffector/blob/master/SmartEffector/SmartEffector_v1.3/SmartEffector_Schematic_v1.3.pdf you will see that the three LEDs and resistors R8 and R9 are all connected in series across the hot end fan input terminals. So if the anode of D1 is less than 1.5V relative to H_Fan_- then that suggests to me that R8 or R9 is open circuit, or not soldered properly.

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                    • Cinproundefined
                      Cinpro
                      last edited by

                      okay, I will look after this print finishes

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                      • DaGWerkzundefined
                        DaGWerkz
                        last edited by

                        dc42
                        I have same problem. its my fault. can your give me specs on LED so I can order replacement.

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                        • dc42undefined
                          dc42 administrators
                          last edited by

                          The part number for the white LEDs is CLM3C-WKW-CWBYA153.

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                          • Cinproundefined
                            Cinpro
                            last edited by

                            and now this, can't get to printing temp even though it has been working fine other than the LEDs, could the hotend heating up soften the solder enough to do this?

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                            • number40fanundefined
                              number40fan
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                              The hot end, no. Bad connection, yes.

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                              • dc42undefined
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                                last edited by

                                It looks to me that the green plastic housing has slid down, but the metal pins are still exactly where they should be. That should not be a problem, except that if you need to remove the heater wires you will probably find it easier if you push the green plastic part up so that it touches the PCB again.

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                                • Cinproundefined
                                  Cinpro
                                  last edited by

                                  @dc42:

                                  I suspect there is a fault in your effector. If you look at the schematic at https://github.com/T3P3/SmartEffector/blob/master/SmartEffector/SmartEffector_v1.3/SmartEffector_Schematic_v1.3.pdf you will see that the three LEDs and resistors R8 and R9 are all connected in series across the hot end fan input terminals. So if the anode of D1 is less than 1.5V relative to H_Fan_- then that suggests to me that R8 or R9 is open circuit, or not soldered properly.

                                  sry so late getting back, real life stuff keeps getting in the way of play time, and it comes first.

                                  I have 2.1-2.8 from the fan+ when its running to each LED, but none are lighting up

                                  also have voltage at D8 and D9

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                                  • mfoltzundefined
                                    mfoltz
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm having a similar problem. have traced it down to the r8 and r9 resistors what are the specs on those?

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                                    • mfoltzundefined
                                      mfoltz
                                      last edited by

                                      if I am reading the schematic right is R9 a 604 ohm .33 watt and R8 a 140 ohm .33 watt? And if so is there any leeway say using a 600 ohm 1/2 watt for R9?

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                                      • dc42undefined
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                                        last edited by

                                        The values of those resistors are not critical. But they are unlikely to have failed, unless you ran it with 24V power when you had the 12V jumper installed - in which case R8 would be charred.

                                        Make sure that you have the + and - hot end fan wires from the Duet to the effector the right way round.

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                                        • mfoltzundefined
                                          mfoltz
                                          last edited by

                                          I know that it is the resistor R9 that is why I am asking. And no I did not connect to 24v I have a totally 12v system. I just need to know what resistor to use to replace R9.

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                                          • dc42undefined
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                                            last edited by

                                            R9 doesn't matter on a 12V system because it it bypassed by the 12V jumper. Have you fitted that jumper?

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